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I guess it's still a step up from a typewriter.
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He makes a good point. Someone should introduce him to vim.
Jeremy Falcon
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ED for CP/M was one of my first!
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I came to personal computers just as the sandbag of apple 2 and dos had overtaken the idol of cp/m, so I never really got to noodle with it.
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I used to use PCWrite[^] ...I would still use it if it was still around. Went looking for the source code to try and port it to newer operating systems but alas, it was nowhere to be found. You could apparently get the source code if you bought the full version.
modified 15-May-14 11:07am.
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He should have switched to Word 2.0 (for DOS), it was really good and didn't use as much memory as WordStar. This was back in the good old days when Microsoft could actually sometimes make better software than the competitors without having to buy another competitor.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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(Quite) a few years ago I was working for a large government department in the UK and was given the job of creating standard business templates for all users - letters, memos, agendas etc - all featuring the official logo, using the standard fonts and layouts etc.
Half of the people were using MS Word 6.0 on Windows 2000 and Windows 98, but the other half had yet to be upgraded and were mainly using Wordperfect on DOS 6.1 boxes. The people who specified the document standards were using the best printers, had full MSOffice with MS Publisher and specified a standard font that wasn't a standard Windows font (Garamond, which came with Publisher), specified logo positioning that 90% of the printers in use couldn't handle (within the non-printable areas on the page) and provided high res logos that the insisted must be used, which increased the document file sizes by a factor of at least 10, causing everything to grind to a halt as the file servers ran out of disk space. The number of different options I was required to provide also blew through the 64KB limit for Windows .ini files, so I had to have entries in the main ini file that pointed to subordinate ini files. Oh joy!
Writing the Wordperfect versions was also a nightmare - the WP macro language was shite.
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On 15th May 1994 I got on a plane to Budapest. It was my first trip there. It was for work and there was a fair amount of alcohol consumed. Scrap that, there was a lot of alcohol consumed.
But we did work.
I went out with a delivery of the latest version of our software. The client, K&H, are still going but long ago switched off the software; actually probably only about 10 years since they migrated from the last version I put in.
The software was a retail banking system and I worked on the client side. The main backend was an IBM 3290 CICS system. I worked on the front office stuff which was all on the new fangled Windows platform.
To be precise, the front end bloatware ran on Windows 3.11 Workgroups with NT servers for the messaging. Each of the three messaging components needed it's own box as it ran at ~100% CPU irrespective of the workload; I sh*t yee not.
Everything was developed in VB3 and each and every form had a different style. The menus where all hard coded and yet the actually menu bars where created dynamically; fun stuff. Nobody trusted the inbuilt Date data type, so we had strings and lots of nasty code. Even one doofus-numbnut-brain-twok decided that a week was not seven days but 365/52 days as it made maturity of weekly interest fall on the correct anniversary. Somewhere in the pits of hell, I have some floppies with copies of the code base from that era; I will never look at them. Never!
Oh there was an Oracle DB there somewhere, but it did very little as everything went to the mainframe. I think it was one of those 'have to have an RDBMS for it to be serious.
But really, I never imagined that day that within a few year Budapest would be my real home and that I'd end up married to one of the locals.
Native. I went there.
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Nostalgia-Nagy
Veni, vidi, vici.
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You mean.. Nostalnagy 
I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.
How to ask a question
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Shirley it's Nagystalgia 
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I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.
How to ask a question
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Cheers. Can you remember what you were doing 20 years ago?
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Yes, driving a blue 'Tipo' with a general and a colonel on board.
Veni, vidi, vici.
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Relaxing, after the most intense 6 months of development in my life, culminating with a ten consecutive days on a trade show stand in Dusseldorf for the product launch. Product went on to be the best seller the company had ever seen, and changed a £2M pa turnover company to a £5.6M pa company in the first year after we started selling it the following October. And it kept climbing from there, to peak at £12M pa and settle at around £10M.
I really, really, should have demanded a commision on each sale... 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Yep. I was in a shop whose flagship product was built on VB5 and C++. Ah, those innocent days of youth... I was also just beginning to poke my nose into .NET and Java. Weird, I know, but I had just been dropped into a project which had a Java client pulling data from a .NET web service. Thems were fun days! 
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Mmm. VB5 was three years later and .NET didn't launch until 2002.
As for Web Services in 1994, me thinks you drank too much KoolAid
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Yeah, I just realized the big mistake I made...I was thinking about 10 years ago! OMG!  How lame is that?
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I would have been at primary school ... in my last term there though.
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Quote: I will never look at them. Never!
You may be amused to learn that 15 years ago I walked away from a lot of VB3 code (also financial services) and thought I would never look back.
I recently "went back" on a short term contract. My mission? To convert that VB3 code (yep - still in production at that time) for use on Windows 7 ... to VB6 no less!
Clearly I was some high-end criminal in a previous life and have now paid my dues!!
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15 years ago we'd moved to VB5 or 6, can't remember exactly, but a lot of the code base was the same.
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I'm still waiting for some VB6 to come back and bite me from a few years ago.
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glennPattonWork wrote: [...] from a few years days ago.
ftfy!
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No-no-no that last abortion was in .NET, the latest version. VB6 was a done many moons ago!
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