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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: I read the story on other site and can't see why delete it...
Yeah, seemed legit.
Marc
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It's still up on the Bloomberg site[^] (the source listed by the Tribune). I wonder if it got nuked from the Chicago paper as they weren't paying Bloomberg enough?
TTFN - Kent
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It was also in the New York Times.
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I need a safe for the house. So I am searching the inter-webs and every site is blocked by corporate policy! Wish there were more websites devoted to needing a safe and NOT owning guns. Don't want people thinking I am a fanatic researching a 72 gun capacity safe. I am more interested in how many computers and file boxes it can hold : (
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Shouldn't you be doing that search from home anyway?
Regardless, have you tried searching for "fire safe"s? In theory, they're the other main type generally sold to consumers; although if I had enough guns to need a 72 rifle capacity safe I'd want one that would protect my investment from a fire as well as from thieves.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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If you have guns you are probably interested in safe as well, I guess the marketing departments have a specific target group in mind, which you have labeled, and I may paraphrase here, as nutters. 
Google search[^]
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Try this: Gun Safe[^]
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Keep in mind that advertised "capacity" actually does not include weapons with accessories attached, such as scopes, silencers, slings, magazines, etc. My 21-gun safe actually comfortable accomodates about 10, and since I keep bandoliers with a combat load-out of ammo (210 rounds per rifle, 50 rounds per pistol, and 100 rounds for the shotgun), and there ain't much room for anything else. I hang the pistols, knives, and gloves on the door, and store scopes, slings and miscellany on the one and only shelf at the top of the safe.
Further, positioning and securing the safe to make it difficult to remove or break into will go a long way toward keeping someone from walking off with it. Build a tray with 2-inch anle iron, and bolt that to the floor in the corener of the room. Place the safe inside the tray, and bolt IT to the floor and the wall. Nobody will be able to lift a 1000-pound safe full of guns and ammo over a two-inch lip, and if you build a heavy duty wall next to the safe, they won't be able to easily get behind it to tip it out. You could also go to the added expense/measure of putting a swing-away bar prevents the safe from being opened with first removing the bar.
The hard you make it to take, the less likely it is that they'll take the time to try.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I really want to get my safe, when I get it, bolted to the floor. Unfortunately, that means that I have to pick a really good location for it! I don't really want it in the Garage, I want it in my office. However, I have floor baseboards, etc, so then I need to consider an offset from the wall, etc. So many considerations just to keep electronics secure. Silly really. Might be cheaper just to add steel reinforced walls, windows, and a steel door : ) but I am not that paranoid.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Nobody will be able to lift a 1000-pound safe full of guns and ammo over a two-inch lip
Do you know someone who can lift a 1000 lb safe even if it wasn't bolted down?
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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You can move a 1000 safe with a dolly? Really??
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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Not directly up; but you can tilt tall things way too heavy to lift directly a few inches to slip piano boards under first one side and then the other so you can roll it away afterward with far less effort.
The summer I worked for a moving company, a half ton safe wouldn't've been the heaviest thing we got into a truck that way. At a rough guess with 3 other men the winner was a large storage cabinet (6x3x1.5') packed completely full of tools by a lunatic that probably weighed in excess of 4 tons (that volume of solid steel would've been about 7 tons). 
Having estimated it's weight for the first time, I can only assume we were too stupid to know even rocking it should've been impossible. Getting it over joints in the sidewalk and up the truck ramp very nearly was...
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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You just made my point. Thanks!
A single person isn't going to lift a 1000lb safe AND WALK AWAY WITH IT.
John's last point was to make is so difficult that a crook wouldn't bother.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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They make hydraulic dollies that can be operated by one person. The fact that commoners don't have to tools means nothing. A professional thief would invest in the correct equipment. The entire theory behind safes is time to crack. If a thief can take the safe they win. That is why people usually bolt it to concrete or use a lip. If you are comfortable with an 1000lbs safe that is not bolted or otherwise secured then you probably didn't need the safe anyway!
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LOL, a hydraulic dolly?? Seriously??
I live in a 2 story house. Gun safe is upstairs in the closet.
Good luck with that.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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Chain saw, and shove it out the hole ; )
Then pick it up off the ground 
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Walk away no; but if it's on the ground floor I'd probably be able to wheel it out the door with nothing more than a few 2x4's and eight heavy duty low profile castors.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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One of my neighbors had his *full* gun safe stolen a few years back. The safe itself weighed 1100 pounds. It wasn't bolted to the floor/wall because he thought the same way. He bolted his new safe to the floor (6 bolts) and wall (8 bolts), and did the tray thing too. He also built a steel cage around it. I would bet that the safe is close to theft proof now. It's located in the middle of the house, and you'd probably have to knock the house down to get it out.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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As with most security measures, they aren't to actually keep things safe, but to make you a less likely target than your neighbour!! Anyone who *really* wants whatever people are trying to keep safe will get it...
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The way you worded your post, it sounds like some policy is blocking any searches for safes that contains the word 'Gun'.
Why would any corporate policy block searches for gun safes???
Blocking a search because it contains the word 'Gun' is more scary than owning guns.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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Well it's hardly programming related.. it could be blocked for the same reason Facebook is blocked: to prevent excessive time wasting.
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Maybe, but then you might as well block ANY search that isn't work related. But then again, how does anyone at the corporate level really know what's work related.
Blocking 'Gun' is just stupid. Makes no sense.
I worked for a company that tried disabling ALL internet access in the interest of work productivity. That last about 3 hours until all the Dev's bitched about it.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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Our net nazi used to block blog and forum, when every dev sent an email to security to request a release, 1 site, 1 email from 13 devs they got the hint fairly rapidly.
Every now and then they reapply the policy and we repeat the entire excercise, what a waste of time!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I'm really happy with the safe I got from these guys: sturdysafe[^]
It looks like their website is slipping by the net-nanny at my work. So, you might have a chance to look.
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