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mbb0117-Feb-16 22:32
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MikeTheFid18-Feb-16 4:04
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I think it extremely interesting that the government is forced to go to the manufacturer to get the data.

The entire situation itself indicates that the government (which obviously includes the NSA) isn't all powerful when it comes to invasion of personal privacy.

I have to admit, my first reaction was, "why can't they just give the damn phone to Apple and have a government (FBI) representative (for chain of evidence reasons) present when the data is produced." That way the code-breaking capability doesn't leave Apple's "clean room" and reduces by many factors the vulnerability of such a program escaping into the wild.

However, if Apple did such a thing, the government would be knocking on their door to do it again in less time than it takes to say iPhone. Ah those pesky precedents.

I'll be stepping out shortly to get more popcorn for the rest of the show.

Talk amongst yourselves.
Cheers,
Mike Fidler

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