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Night of the living brain dead
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Any UK Club around 3AM...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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In that case stupidity cannot exist without someone stupid creating it. And I mean the mental handicap, not ignorance. The absence of potential. Or could it be that genes are partially the ones that help determine that trait along with our surroundings?
I don't think that Microsoft's AI had any problems with "genetics". It was the surroundings that were the problem. Releasing her on Twitter, I mean why not just throw kids into an ocean to teach them how to swim?
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RUs123 wrote: I mean why not just throw kids into an ocean to teach them how to swim?
Sharks. Ocean. Kids. Need I say more?
Just not enough sharks... 
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I suspect you still refer to your child's age in months, given your dislike of children. 
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I have nothing against children.
And I'm planning on keeping it that way.
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RUs123 wrote: I don't think that Microsoft's AI had any problems with "genetics".
I don't know, it did seem to be programmed to try and be a popular-but-vacant airhead. It just repeated things that it "thought" people wanted to hear, without any ability to really think for itself or any awareness of human reactions, language, culture or history.
I don't think we have much to worry about from AI at the moment, unless the plan is to duckface-selfie us into oblivion 
The whole thing's rigged to blow, touch those tanks and "boooom"!
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Quote: I don't think we have much to worry about from AI at the moment, unless the plan is to duckface-selfie us into oblivion Smile |
Isn't that what the cool kids are doing? 
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Well I'm almost current, when someone makes a selfie that includes me, I usually pull the old hatchetfish face.[^]
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LOL. I think it was clear that "intentionally creating intelligence" requires intelligence.
Allowing it to happen from natural selection is "Probable".
In fact, at a certain level, I believe that Intelligence is merely pattern recognition.
The magic is the arbitrary (and extreme) complexity of the patterns we associate with intelligence.
Think about how you would communicate to a being trapped in a room with you that you are intelligent?
Assuming you do not share a "language". The mere act of pointing at various things and making a different sound for them is a pattern, and a pattern that displays a way to communicate.
Maybe tap out prime numbers (a pattern, and a complex concept).
In the end, we are bags of chemicals (mostly water), in search of patterns to fulfill our needs chemically, and mentally (one of our requirements in relationships is both resonance and dissonance. We want people who think like us, but NOT exactly like us. We want to be challenged, interested.)
And when we TRULY create this artificially... We will all be doomed. Because I believe it requires being somebody that can feel pain to have empathy, and empathy to prevent logic result that all people eventually die... so lets save them some time.... (LOL) "Okay, What Next Professor? Professor? Oh, is that a fly..." <the ai="" might="" still="" have="" the="" attention="" of="" a="" gnat="">
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Then you have the whole debate about whose intelligence should AI be modeled after - yours, mine, the idiot down the street. Will your AI bot have a political affiliation? What affiliation will that be - yours, mine, or the idiot down the street?
Will your AI bot be religious? Will it be gay, straight, or A-sexual? Will it like bacon, or will it be a vegan?
The list of possibilities is overwhelming for sure.
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Slacker007 wrote: The list of possibilities is overwhelming for sure.
I'll go out on a limb here and suggest that as a minimum starting point, Microsoft probably shouldn't model their software on Brittany Spears 
The whole thing's rigged to blow, touch those tanks and "boooom"!
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Brent Jenkins wrote: Microsoft probably shouldn't model their software
I think we can start here.
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Brent Jenkins wrote: shouldn't model their software on Brittany Spears
Nor on people who can't spell her name, presumably!
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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Exactly
I doubt that there's anyone on the planet intelligent enough to be able to write code emulating real intelligence
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Sooo many problems with creating an AI. And once you unleash a "real" AI into the world, you're more or less completely at its mercy.
What I think is a much more interesting approach is figuring out how to create direct electrical interfaces with our brain and amending it's capabilities and slowly merging humans with technology. For example, when you think about 2358734 x 891723912, the answer is computed by a chip and the answer just pops into your head. Same with facts on the internet, pictures, videos, etc.
You keep advancing this technology and eventually *we" become the AI. You get the advantages of AI with the advantages of humans controlling the process. By the end, organic brains will likely be left behind and disconnected, replaced piece by piece until they are no longer needed, but the resulting AI computer will truly be an evolved form of humanity.
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Brings a whole new meaning to the "beam me up, Scotty..." saying.
Marc
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Microsoft need to watch out for that comma
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I think (?) the real problem is "artificial".
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There is absolutely no reason to think that artificial intelligence, when it becomes sufficiently powerful to impress/scare us, will resemble human intelligence in any way. Machine intelligence may be an idiot-savant, able to solve problems or recall facts, but without motivation or emotion. It may be able to drive a car, but not to recognize a face. It may go from cat-like to human-like skills in a matter of hours, or never.
Machines will become gradually more and more capable, until suddenly they are smart enough to exhibit emergent properties we did not anticipate. They will be as smart as a worm, then as smart as an ant, then as smart as a mouse. A machine as smart as a mouse might be able to drive or fetch you a beer. We don't know enough about the human brain to say to what extent it is just a really big rat-brain, or something else.
I think AI is inevitable, because we will keep poking at AI until we get it. Ultimately, thinking machines may be the next evolutionary step, unless we decide instead to enhance our own biological machinery. Self-driving cars in 4 years. Self-programming machines in 10-15. After that, it's a short step to the Singularity, only we won't be on top.
I like to imagine a neandertal, dimly contemplating the gracile, erect-walking homo erectus. Will we be proud of our descendants? Jealous? Hard to say.
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There is absolutely no reason to think that artificial intelligence, when it becomes sufficiently powerful to impress/scare us, will resemble human intelligence in any way.
Ego. If it doesn't think and behave like us, or express the same values and morals as us, very few people will accept it as being intelligent.
As far as most people are concerned, people are the "gold standard" in intelligence.
The whole thing's rigged to blow, touch those tanks and "boooom"!
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Bert Appermont - Colors[^]
This might surprise some of you, but I've been in a fanfare orchestra for a while (from 2006 to 2010 or something). I played percussion.
I joined right before the orchestra's 110th anniversary and this song was one of the pieces we played to celebrate. To this day one of my musical pieces
Bert Appermont is a Belgian composer and well known in the fanfare scene.
For those of you who think fanfare is "just marching music", you're really very wrong. I guess the music speaks for itself
Thought of it this week, listened, then listened some more, and now it's song of the week! 
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Sander Rossel wrote: I joined right before the orchestra's 110th anniversary and this song was one of the pieces we played to celebrate.
Well, someone thinks the sun comes up just to hear him crow!
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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