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I've been using high DPI for a year and a half on my laptop and as 1 screen of three on my work laptop for the last 9. I haven't had any issues; just set the scaling in windows to an appropraite level and enjoy the sharper text.
If you're working on old WinForm apps, you might have scaling problems with them. OTOH that's just bringing forward that some winform controls don't scale nicely, and AFAIK any custom layout math you did needs to have the DPI factor in to work right. But those're problems any end users on newer systems are running into anyway.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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It looks like there is no real reason for getting two 24" monitors at 1920 x 1080 when I can get two at 2560 x 1440.
Thank you!
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Well you could get 24" 4k's instead. At least initially i was reluctant to suggest too much budget expansion though.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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That would be around 300€ more and this is not on my business plan...
The QHD will be more than enough and much better than what I do have now.
Thank you!
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That's what I figured. 4k's still a fairly large premium and with your starting at 1080p I didn't think yours would scale that high.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I really would have missed that opportunity without your comment... I really would have skipped it directly... stupid me...
But yes, 4K is too much for my budget... I guess with QHD I will get a huge improvement from what I have now.
Thank you again!
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And just if you want to find out about those monitors you've recalled, just go to computer hardware store and ask a sales person about what is actually better. Also, as for me, I would choose the monitor having a valuable retina surface that protects your vision without distorting a picture.
But, anyway, it's actually up to you whichever monitor to purchase. Apparently these both (A) 21,5" => 102 dpi.
(B) 23" => 95.8 dpi. you've listed are merely the same as far as I can understand.
The difference between resolution in dpi's is probably depends on a manufacturer.
But, to elaborate, please specify particular models and vendors of those monitors you're about to buy.
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Quote: The difference between resolution in dpi's is probably depends on a manufacturer
I think dpi (dots per Inch) is not really depended on manufacturers
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Hi Arthur,
First of all, thank you for your post.
I'm interested on:
Lenovo T22i-10[^]
Lenovo T24i-10[^]
The datasheet of both monitors can be found here:
T22i-10.pdf[^]
T24i-10.pdf[^]
In my case I will have two monitors placed side by side attached to a double mechanical arm that will ensure the same height on both.
Thank you for giving your opinion.
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Thanks for your reply to my posts.
It's great that you can afford both monitors.
Dell T-series monitors is a very good choice, whereas Lenovo basically depends on a model.
As for me, I would purchase Dell T-22i-10. I followed the link and review tech specs of this monitor.
It's really great.
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23"
«While I complain of being able to see only a shadow of the past, I may be insensitive to reality as it is now, since I'm not at a stage of development where I'm capable of seeing it. A few hundred years later another traveler despairing as myself, may mourn the disappearance of what I may have seen, but failed to see.» Claude Levi-Strauss (Tristes Tropiques, 1955)
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Thank you Bill!, it seems that at the end it will have to be 22 or 24, as the 23 option is not available. so I guess your answer would be 24...
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Of the 2 choices, if I couldn't compare them in a store, 23". Best case for this stuff is to measure how far you sit from things and then sit in the store at that distance to choose.
FWIIW: I went from 2 ea 20" monitors side by side (extended desktop 3200 by something) to 34" at 3440x1440. Those 2 20"ers served me very well for about 8 years.
Got the 34" at about 50% off on sale. I run VS in virtual machines (one for development and one for test) and can put them side by side or use multiple desktops (my choice most of the time). I sit 27" from the monitor and the resolution is great. Very $pendy, but I spend a lot of time behind it and try to make things as comfortable as possible.
Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree".
Anonymous
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Hi theoldfool!
Thank you for your comments.
I'm really used to have two monitors to program, it makes my life really easier to be able to use key shortcuts to get windows where I want (maximize two windows at the same time, one on each display, seeing a full screen video in one and then do whatever in the other one...).
so I would like (at least by now to use a couple of displays side by side).
My doubt was about the same resolution and the size given this will affect the pixel density and therefore the smaller the display the sharper the image. but it seems that everyone here is saying that I shouldn't worry about this and go for the bigger one.
Again, thank you for your comments!
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The bigger monitor is better. Monitor is the device which is the most important because it is the interface to your precious eyes. Because monitors are long lasting devices you should take the best you can afford. I have my Samsung for some 6 years now.
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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Thank you (again) KarstenK!
100% agree.
Given the answers I've got, I think I'll go for the bigger one and then put it farther from me.
It's not a price question... it is only a matter of being right... I can't see those monitors at the shop as here we don't have Lenovo distributors with physical shops that sell professional products so no way to see any of those displays.
so T22i-10[^] or T24i-10[^] and given what everybody has said, I think I'll go for the big ones...
It will be similar to what I have now but placed in a mechanical articulated arm, with led backlight and much newer so I guess that much better than my 2003 HP displays.
I can't see a better display in the Lenovo web site... I hope I won't miss it and choose the right one...
Thank you again.
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1080? For programming? What kind of peasantry is that?
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I suppose I would opt for higher resolution for when I need it and change text size etc. with ctrl + scroll.
I am spoiled though from using a true 4K 31" monitor and I can't imagine scaling down now. Strange thing I experienced is when I used the monitor in 3840 x 2160 mode icons and dialog boxes did not increase scale, but when I Switched to 4096 x 2160 mode, everything scaled appropriately and I find it very comfortable. With a monitor this size, I can use the single screen as two by using Window Key + left arrow and selecting the second app after that.
Thank you Joan for another interesting question.
Rollin Shultz
Bulletproof Designs LLC
Windows Insider - Fast Track
Motto: Ask for help when needed, help others when asked, and remember where you came from.
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Hi Rollin!
Your set up seems amazing. 4096x2160!!! In the best scenario I've thought of I will be getting 3840x1080 getting two monitors...
To me using two displays was a great improvement in terms of productivity so I won't go this way until I buy the next display for our home PC (probably it will be time to try a curved monster display if money allows it).
Now I own two 24" LCD HP monitors which from the first day have killed my eyesight. And I can't understand why... I've read out there that LED backlight helps reducing eye stress. I have another 22" display from HP which has led backlight and it is much better, but I can't know if it is due the resolution 1920*1080 in a smaller display (22") or if it is only due to the led backlight.
The 24" LCD HP monitors are from 2003 and therefore they will be much worse than whatever I can buy today...
PS: To be honest I was a little worried to post those questions into the Lounge... I don't want to kidnap it...
Again, thank you for your comments!
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Go for 1920x1200. The bit of extra height is handy.
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Not an option here.
Believe me or not, but I'll have a set up of 3 displays (laptop + two 22" or 24") and I really hate now when I try to move the cursor from the big ones to the laptop one it can be a nightmare if you have the cursor below the 1080. Well, not a nightmare but it can be annoying.
Moreover the displays I can get at my TI provider mostly are 1080p or much bigger.
We are speaking of 120px which I can live without.
Thank you for your comment.
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I run three 22" monitors 1600x1200 in portrait mode for Visual Studio, etc. and one 24" 1920x1080 in landscape for everything that looks better in landscape - plus a couple of others that I keep changing.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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No joke icon so I guess you are being serious here...
If that's the case... is the 24" at 1920x1080 blurry or worse in terms of eye strain?
Thank you for your post.
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I keep the brightness at 50%, the contrast a little higher than default and the screen is clean - no smudges or fingerprints on my non-touch screens.
I get no eye-strain at all that I am aware of and I use these screens, arranged side by side in a curve all to be about 30" away from my face, for a 10 to 12 hour day, every day.
I have almost the same arrangement at home which I use in the evenings and weekends with no noticeable eye-strain.
I have no idea what the dpi of any of these are - it doesn't matter, they are all clear and readable and running at 100% text setting. I run Visual Studio using Consolas 9pt for my text and it is clear and easy. I only zoom it when I am showing someone something and they are looking over my shoulder. Often they say they don't need that so it must be clear enough for them too.
[Edit] The important thing is to run the screens at their "native" resolution. I had a complaint from a user that even though she ran the screen at 1024x768 it was still blurry. I increased the resolution to the native 1280x1024 which she complained about, "Now it's going to be small AND blurry" but it turned out that it was slightly smaller text but crystal clear and so easier to read and no eye-strain. She was, amazingly, happy.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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