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Mycroft Holmes wrote: actually you get a loyalty bonus for staying with a product.
And that's exactly the point that should be, but it is not. Companies don't give a crap for current customers and usually is more expensive to stay than to change.
I have already had funny discussions with customer hotlines due to this. Everything changes when you say: "OK, then I want to cancel the contract", then everything is "did you know about...?"
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Yeah, and that's really stupid. These are customers you don't have to spend money to find! So use the effort to locate new customers, and keep the existing ones sweet. Especially when it's an electronic product so there is no duplication or manufacturing cost ... 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Exactly. I got almost 20% cheaper internet once and 25% more bandwidth for the same price another time just changing / threatening to change provider
The best is... now I am back to my first one.
Why didn't they just gave me the bonuses before? That would have saved me time and them some administration costs
That was 2,5 years ago, now they are pissing me off with some connection interruptions, I think due to segmentation. I have called them twice and no solution / concrete explanation for the sporadic issue.
I am starting to see what is out there on the market (again  )
I would be happy to stay, but if you don't show the teeth from time to time, they do what they want.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Nelek wrote: Why didn't they just gave me the bonuses before? That would have saved me time and them some administration cost
Because some people do not change. And they cannot determine that until you do in fact change. And of those that change some do not do it as soon as they can.
Retention is often based on the customer initiated call to say that the customer is changing unless they are offered a deal.
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In Holland we know this as 'trouwe klanten boete', which means 'loyal customer fine' 
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Why does anyone buy a security product made by Russians??!!! 
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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We are Norton users and it is the same thing.
You can allow Norton to auto-charge you each year (which I'm totally against, in principle anyways) and they will charge you $79.99 for that convenience.
Instead, I go to amazon and buy the downloadable key for $29.99 (and some years cheaper).
Type the key into the old systems and they are ready to go.
Why wouldn't Norton do that via auto-charge? Not sure, but I guess I wouldn't do that anyways. 
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I have developing application in WPF. User can add controls from toolskit where controls will add to the canvas.
In this scenario, values changed in one control should reflect in another control.
How do I implement this?
Thanks,
Venu
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You're at the wrong part of the website; this is the Lounge. For programming questions, the link above in bold red is where you need to ask. [^]
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Or you could ask in the dedicated WPF forum!
The answer is to bind both controls to the same data source.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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... and you didn't flag this as a rant? You're slipping! 
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Add reference to Nuget System.Net.Http (V 4.3.2) package
And there's the problem. Again. And again. And again. Ad nauseum.
Marc
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My new favourite error: Quote: Could not load file or assembly 'netfx.force.conflicts' or one of its dependencies
Looks like it's a another bug[^]
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: My new favourite error:
Ewww. And I suppose none of the "I solved it" posts worked?
Marc
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No - not one. [Update: I did find one that did - but by coincidence]
It's all System.Net.Http: If you add a reference to a framework assembly then it wants 4.1.1.1, but it can't find 4.1.1.1 in the framework assemblies so fails. I can, however, copy a version of System.Net.Http.dll into the directory and get it working for a Web Forms app.
However, on an MVC app that isn't working. It wants 4.2.0.0 when I've referenced 4.1.1.1, so I bite the bullet and add the Nuget ref to 4.2.0.0 and then it complains it can't find 4.1.1.1. I adjust the redirection in web.config so they all point to 4.2.0.0 (even though VS keeps wanting to set it as 4.1.1.1) and then I get the "can't resolve assembly". No version number now - just "can't find anything that works".
So my final workaround is
<dependentAssembly>
<assemblyIdentity name="System.Net.Http" publicKeyToken="b03f5f7f11d50a3a" culture="neutral" />
<bindingRedirect oldVersion="0.0.0.0-4.2.0.0" newVersion="4.0.0.0" />
</dependentAssembly>
which is what someone else has also found: System.Net.Http package 4.3.2 - redirect to 4.2.0.0, assembly loading failure · Issue #22781[^]
Evidently: Quote: Looks like Visual Studio 2017 15.3 is shipping with a .NET 4.6.x System.Net.Http.dll with internal assembly version 4.2.0 and the latest Nuget Package assembly version is 4.1.1 for NetFX.
And the best bit?
Unless you clean out the bin completely before each rebuild (or, it seems, glancing away for 10 seconds) you get
Could not load file or assembly 'netfx.force.conflicts'
Which is evidently impossible but everyone's getting it.
A complete Charlie Foxtrot. I'm beyond pissed off at such a fundamental showstopper.
cheers
Chris Maunder
modified 18-Aug-17 17:23pm.
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The way Microsoft is behaving these days, I am sure they will come out with a SaaS solution, which you can get from Microsoft Azure, just make sure you have a valid subscription.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Hi All,
I'm sorry I haven't been posting during the day, except well new job, don't want the standard to slip just yet. It is kinda cool, I get to break things and test them to see if they work. Also is it a good sign I have been invited to the Christmas do (they send invites in August?). I can look just not post at the moment...why was Mike Martin (or Mike Farrrkking Hunt as he was earlier) on a tirade? so body spilt his ![Beer | [beer]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/beer.gif) ???
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glennPattonWork wrote: why was Mike Martin (or Mike Farrrkking Hunt as he was earlier) on a tirade?
When is he not?
Marc
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glennPattonWork wrote: Mike Martin
It's faarrrkkkking Mick!
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Congrats! But don't they miss you at the pub?
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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There you go, you screwed up and paid your tab on your way out the last time. If you would have left it stand, they would miss you. A lot.
Software Zen: delete this;
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True, that taught me not bury the bodies too deep next time! Quote: f you would have left it stand, they would miss you. A lot.
It would have been fun to do three rounds with the Texan ex-marine and finished the conversation with "not my problem, get the muppet who wrote it to sort it!" 
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