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OriginalGriff wrote:
That's a difficult one: though I agree we know of many planets existence, and only of one with life, we haven't actually looked at any others in sufficient detail to reject the existence of life there.
Not rejecting the idea that there would be life, just noting that Drake is an optimist and that life might not be so abundant after all.

OriginalGriff wrote:
Even Mars, Europa, or (less likely) Venus could have life we just haven't found yet
We haven't seen much of Venus yet, and we might have accidentally even introduced life on Mars. I wouldn't be surprised if some bacteria hiked on the lander and starts colonizing.

OriginalGriff wrote:
No information yet; you can't infer an absence of life - even intelligent, star faring life - from an absence of data! For all we know star spanning civilizations are in every solar system, but they have a "Prime Directive" not to approach until we go to them, I dunno.
We can safely assume that no intelligent race comes up with a prime directive Smile | :)

We can also say that there is no proof of actual intelligent life near us, since every trace of their existence is absent. Any "star ship drive" would leave some traces, any communication would do so too.

Even if a civ tried to build a Dyson-sphere, we would know - as a bright star would start dimming and dissapear.

So either they all "finished" building it and they have a prime directive and have a reason to hide from us (?) or there is not as much life as hoped. Apply Occam's razor. Here's a scary idea; what if this (polluted, radiated and poisoned) planet is the first one with life?

Imagine a million years from now, thousands of races (mayhaps even from one origin), talking about the first intelligent life - how we had politicians, taxes, and JavaScript even before the first bacteria landed on Mars Laugh | :laugh:
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