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Not surprising. It also missing drivers for all sort of graphic cards other than Intel, making gaming / video editing / photo editing a pain in the butt because of how sluggish it is.
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win 7
Signature ready for installation. Please Reboot now.
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The problem with 7 nowadays is that there's hundreds of updates waiting to be downloaded and installed even if you clean-install from the latest ISO you can get from Microsoft. Based on my own observations of doing clean installs of Windows 7 nowadays, there's a 50-50 chance you can't just start the update process and walk away for a few hours--something will be broken. Being lucky means being able to restart the update process a few times and it'll manage to complete cleanly.
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Win 7 and hirens' boot CD
Install, update, image... new updates come? restore image, delta update, image.
M.D.V. 
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Win 7 and hirens' boot CD and turn off windows updates because nothing actually necessary or important has come out since the latest ISO.
Signature ready for installation. Please Reboot now.
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Nothing you NEED has come out since the iso. 
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Good CD, very good actually, but I prefer Macrium.
Or you can just turn off updates...
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For the Win10 Laptop I have changed to Macrium too... Hiren's was not working anymore and I needed a substitute. Pity 
I tested the one that OG recommends, the software was nice, but the boot CD sucked.
Macrium is a bit more complicated, but the Boot CD worked fine for me.
M.D.V.
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Turn off updates, thats what I do, and win7 is my principle OS.
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dandy72 wrote: Linux...you're so close, yet still so far from actually being usable.
Exactly. The thing that drives me nuts about Linux is that to get something working, I have to spend more time figuring out the right sudo command, the right package to install because the command is missing, the right compiler to install because the package doesn't have the right binary distro for the version of the OS, the right dependencies to install because the package source gets the latest which has some API changes with the package source as it was last "maintained", and if I'm lucky enough to build it, basically start back at square one with googling and taking random shots in a dark black hole to figure out the right esoteric (you need to be Rudolf Steiner so you can ask the dead for help) OS configuration file/command/parameter/parameter switches to set up, at which point I've forgotten about the problem I was trying to solve and just go back to my nice W10 (did I say that) and C# projects.
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How depressingly true.
Even when, for example, people have exhaustive notes in a blog somewhere to get something going...at least half of it is no longer going to be applicable a few versions down the road.
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Ain't that the truth!
Even the blogs that list the build process for the kernel over 3 or 4 versions finally give up.
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I used it years ago when I had to buy a server for our company...
Using RHEL5 was perfect for us: it saved us a lot of money in Microsoft licenses (internal e-mail, backup, user quantity...).
It worked perfectly until id did not... when it stopped working we had a couple of pages of bash commands that were super useful to reinstantiate the samba, change permissions...
It was a server so no one got close to it except to change the backup tapes...
for anything that someone has to put a finger on it... Windows... 
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Why don't you just install windows 7? If home cinema is all the use you do to that machine, you should have no problems if you don't get more updates.
M.D.V.
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Could I please make a few representations for the defence? It's not surprising that a PC built to run Windows does not run Linux as efficiently. Also, it takes two to network, if Linux doesn't network well with Windows it's equally true that Windows does not network well with Linux. As for the final statement, 'Linux...you're so close, yet still so far from actually being usable.' How can you explain that, according to Wikipedia, 'Linux has the largest installed base of all general-purpose operating systems. Linux is also the leading operating system on servers and other big iron systems such as mainframe computers'?
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George Swan wrote: a PC built to run Windows
In what way? It is juts an instruction set, how it is used is up to the software vendor.
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The problem is not with the CPU, it's the lack of driver support for the bungled hardware. See this piece regarding Nvidia.
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Right, that is something different then.
Of course in the linux world anyone ca write a driver for an Nvidia card, if they have access to the register documentation.
I have put 17.10 on a laptop with Nvidia, it has been a bit of a faff, but it works.
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That middle finger salute is laughable. Nvidia is a money making corporation, it is not a charity foundation. They have no obligation to make drivers for open source OS, which gives them zero income. They have workers who have families to be fed.
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I think the main complaint is that Nvidia do not disclose sufficient information to allow others to build efficient drivers for its hardware.
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Those are company secret
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George Swan wrote: How can you explain that, according to Wikipedia,
Easily.
George Swan wrote:
'Linux has the largest installed base of all general-purpose operating systems.
These days they include Android phones in the count when you hear that statement
George Swan wrote: Linux is also the leading operating system on servers and other big iron systems such as mainframe computers'?
Notice how they leave out desktops...which is the sort of environment I'm trying to use it in and where it's failing.
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Yep, it is close, but just fails at the final hurdle.
I am having issues with 17.10 and nvidia drivers, (massively high) resolutions, blank screens.
Perhaps go back to an older Ubuntu with the unity shell?
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I would try Linux Mint before giving up.
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No plans to give up!
Not that I intend to use it, I just need to get a kernel with some extra tracing/step through running so I can see why my USB device isnt working properly on linux.
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