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So we can expect a car based CC tomorrow then? 
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Yes. The answer is "MERCEDES" - but don't tell anyone.
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I was thinking more along the lines of the clue being "How much!!!!" 
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Nah, the garage is fairly decent. Last time they did one (on my previous Merc) it cast £45 including labour and parts. May cost a bit more for this one, as it's developed a rattle which sounds like a broken exhaust bracket - and it's far too low to the ground for me to get under and look! 
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Must have been one of those split glue on ones.
If not it costs hundreds, as the CV has to be pulled off the shaft, which means the suspension has to be partly dismantled.
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Classic record records an attempt (8)
modified 9-Jan-18 4:24am.
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Classic record
records TAPES
an attempt TRY TAPESTRY
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Indeed
For the young 'uns out there who don 't know it, according to wiki:Quote: Tapestry is one of the best-selling albums of all time, with over 25 million copies sold worldwide. In the United States, it has been certified Diamond by the RIAA with more than 10 million copies sold.[3] It received four Grammy Awards in 1972, including Album of the Year. The lead single from the album — "It's Too Late"/"I Feel the Earth Move" — spent five weeks at number one on both the Billboard Hot 100[4] and Easy Listening[5] charts. In 2003, Tapestry was ranked number 36 on Rolling Stone list of the 500 greatest albums of all time.[6]
The album remained on the Billboard charts for 313 weeks (second only to Pink Floyd's 724 weeks with The Dark Side of the Moon).[14]
Having said all that, it was never in my record collection! I always thought Melanie was a far better singer and songwriter... <3
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Ah. I was wrong then.
I thought of "Classic record" as "Tapestry" from this kind of thing: Bayeux Tapestry - Wikipedia[^] - which isn't really a tapestry, it's an embroidery in the same way that a Tomato isn't a vegetable, it's a fruit ...
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Well... you were right for the wrong reason!
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So you're saying the ends justify the means? 
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That's one of those case-by-case things, innit...
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That's the way I saw it, too.
The other context is a bit too broad - one man's classic record is another man's two ounces of plastic that should have been used for bin bags.
Nothing against Tapestry but if I were listing albums I regard as classics, I'd probably be well into the four-digit numbers before it came up for consideration.
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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Quote: Nothing against Tapestry but if I were listing albums I regard as classics, I'd probably be well into the four-digit numbers before it came up for consideration
Me too - as I more or less said in my comment. But in terms of pure stats, I think it's fair to call it a classic (again, as in my comment.)
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Do stats equate to classicness (if there is such a word - and there probably isn't), though?
Kenny G's Breathless shifted 12 million units while the Velvet Underground's first album sold by the handful. I'd like to think that most of us would point to The VU & Nico as being the classic of the pair.
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Well.. we can each have our own personal favourites and classics, but we can also accept that certain ones can count as a classic, even if we personally don't rate them, just on account of their popularity and influence. Call it two different types of classics, if you will, but either is fair enough in context. Tapestry is one of he best selling records of all time, and it's Billboard listings are second only to Pink Floyd's Dark Side Of The Moon. I don't think it's unfair to call it a classic - even though I personally wasn't that enamoured of it.
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I agree it has to go beyond a question of taste, and for that matter, quality.
I think there are various different types of classic
1) The impact record: Let's take Never Mind the Wotsits - a country mile short of being the best of its genre and era but it had such a seismic effect that it's impossible to ignore.
2) The hit record: Something so undeniably wonderful that the whole world gets it and buys into it - Sergeant Pepper, Dark Side, Ziggy Stardust and Bat Out of Hell are all good examples.
3) The seminal record: Rarely big sellers at the outset but things that influence other musicians for decades to come - Kind of Blue, The VU and Nico, Unknown Pleasures.
4) The cult classic: Records that never really sell in quantity but are adored by the relatively small portion of people that know them across the generations - Nick Drake's Bryter Layter is a fine example, it makes me really happy every time I come across a 20-something who has just fallen in love with it for the first time.
5) The ephemeral hit: A sub-set of #2 which is where it seems to belong for a while but time isn't terribly kind to it. Yes, it's good and it spends a fair old period on the best-seller list but it hasn't quite got enough going on to attract the attention of subsequent generations and it ultimately becomes something of a staple at car-boot sales. I'd probably place Tapestry in that category along with anything by The Police or Oasis.
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I'm not sure I could come up with 1000 albums at all, without having to browse though my collections (plastic and electrons).
No order, but:
Pink Floyd: Dark side of the moon
Mike Oldfield: Tubular bells
AC/DC: Highway to Hell
Iron Maiden: The Number of the Beast
The Wailers: Catch a Fire
Queen: A Night at the Opera
Jimi Hendrix: Electric Ladyland
Patti Smith: Horses
The Band: The Last Waltz
Nirvana: Nevermind
Jimmy Scott: The Definitive Someone to Watch Over Me
Blue Oyster Cult: Agents of Fortune
Laurie Anderson: Big Science
...
... Maybe I could get to 1000 ...
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Have you forgotten "Dafydd Y Garreg Wen"?
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Not an album...
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Any from this century, old man?
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They still release albums this century? How quaint, old boy.
Is this on wax cylinder for the Hipsters, or CD for the "must have it physical and fragile" brigade?
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Roger Waters: Is This The Life We Really Want?
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Other than a PJ Harvey one or two, I can't think of many this century that I'd rate as "classic". Trouble is, to us old timers, we really have heard it all before. This maybe why I listen to Asian (Japanese and Korean) rock nowadays more than any other when I want something refreshing - even if it's still just rock, they bring a different energy to it. There really isn't much "Western" music that does it for me these days. PJ, as I mentioned... and Deerhoof... there are a few others, but although I like them none of their stuff can really be called "classic" (yet).
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The Libertines are very good.
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