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KarstenK13-Feb-18 0:00
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TNCaver13-Feb-18 4:25
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Dar Brett14-Feb-18 12:24
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kalberts14-Feb-18 22:40
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Dar Brett15-Feb-18 23:36
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kalberts16-Feb-18 0:44
kalberts16-Feb-18 0:44 
I wouldn't want them applications to require the password as a parameter, but nevertheless I have to accept it when the application is not one that I can change. There are load of them out there, requiring the password as a parameter!

Bamboo (the CI system) recognizes this, and lets you pass the password through a bamboo defined variable. If the name of this variable contains the substing 'password', in the log files from the build, the actual value is not printed; the log rather displays a number of asterisks.

I hate it when some site tells me "Your new password looks too much like your old one", which proves that they store the password in cleartext. Other sites refuse passwords having the site name or service name as a substring, or my user name as a substring (even if it makes up only five of the twenty characters). It is like they say "We do not accept any sort of memorizing rule - we insist on passwords that are so meaningless that you HAVE to write them down".

Kerberos was (/is) a very well designed single-sign-on system developed in *nix environments. Unfortunately, MS didn't wait until it had been established as The *nix authentication system, but were in the forefront, including Kerberos in Windows. To the *nix community, that was like poisoining Kerberos - it was instantly made intouchable in *nix environments. You do not want to touch anything that has been soiled by MS.

Yet, Kerberos is a great system: An authentication (login) service sends you a (time limited) proof of your identity, encrypted with your password. No PW is transferred across the net. If you cannot decrypt it locally, it has no value. If you can decrypt it, you can ask a ticket servcice (or several) for (time limited) tickets to various services, by showing this certified ID card as a proof of identity. You can access any number of services without re-specifying any password. The ticket service may, based on the authorizations in the ID card or its own database, issue tickets with limited or extended rights. A service need only look at the ticket to decide what to make avilable and for how long - the identity of the requester is available, but many services need not relate to it. A lot of extra security features is built into the tickets, such as expected client IP adddress (making stolen tickets worthless from other sites), service authentication (the ticket has fields encrypted with the key of the service) ect.

It really is a pity that Kerberos did not break through as The Internet login method. If MS could just have held back until *nix people had started promoting it as their solution... but that didn't happen. Kerberos was lost and login procedures remain at stone age level.
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Daniel T Barnett14-Feb-18 2:26
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kalberts14-Feb-18 22:52
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kalberts15-Feb-18 1:20
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Gary Wheeler14-Feb-18 2:06
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kalberts14-Feb-18 23:02
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