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Munchies_Matt13-Apr-18 8:04
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Generaldoes this apply to reverse engineering code? Pin
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lopatir12-Apr-18 4:20
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ah, but the point is what if the software they give you is broken, and they do not fix it?

If you say rent a car and it's broken they rental co will usually fix it or more often give you another.
Now for software say microsoft provides a product that has bugs that sometimes date back years and often they won't even acknowledge let alone fix it. Taking them to court will never work - your attorney vs their large building full of lawyers and more. The agreement prohibits reverse engineering but it also states they provide a working product.

They've already broken the agreement, why can't your take measures to fix it? They provide the software to do X, it fails, you fix the product to do X - it necessitated some reverse engineering but that was never to steal secrets, rather to fix their product to meet their agreement.

So for mine, there are cases you should be allowed to take the lid off software code too, and if you want to sell (or give away) your fix to others also having the problem - also legal.

Here's a real case:
I recently helped a company move some XP software to new (well less old) hardware, microsoft no longer support xp and hence no will longer licence for it - previously under the licence it was allowed (with ms help) to move xp between machines [as long as the other machine is uninstalled]. ms will no longer help but the licence terms remain, and so the company that bought the software can take any other measures they want to achieve their goal, no breakage of the agreement by the customer, only ms broke the agreement.

Is "no looking at the code" the same as "looking under the sticker" - absolutely from where I see it, regardless if it's an item or licence to install and use software. (really software is just a visualised copy of a thing.)
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