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pwasser wrote: Your question seems to ask if there is a way of circumventing an NDA.
Not at all.
I am basically asking if Codeproject would be interested in developing something similar to what Stackoverflow done back in July:
Channels: Private Q&A for Your Team[^]
A more formal and private area would allow members to disclose their employer and perhaps contact information and project details. Yes, it may even allow members to discuss technical details under NDA in a private area.
I guess Chris had a similar idea way back when he did the last site redesign because there is already a 'Group'[^] implementation.
But I don't think the current implementation allows groups/teams/individuals to collaborate privately between multiple groups.
Best Wishes,
-David Delaune
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It seems clear that the SA Channel is meant for sharing information within a team under the same NDA. As an aside that does not seem too safe to me and I can't imagine any organization I've been involved with agreeing to that. However that is not what you are proposing.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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pwasser wrote: It seems clear that the SA Channel is meant for sharing information within a team under the same NDA.
I have absolutely no idea why you keep focusing on the word 'NDA' which has very little to do with my suggestion. It was a single use-case scenario for contacting/collaborating with other site members privately.
Best Wishes,
-David Delaune
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Interesting.
If someone has their work email associated with their account, and that email isn't always under their control (eg they leave) and we have a private conversation viewable only by the participants, and the purpose is to have a discussion that the person probably can't have using their work email, then the purpose is defeated because if the person leaves and their IT dept now has their email then the IT dept can now log in as them and recover the full conversation.
I would suggest that a private email be sent with your contact details in it so the person can contact you from their private email address and have the conversation outside of their account.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Well,
I guess I should have phrased the original post differently. It seems everyone keeps getting stuck on NDA and 'conversations you shouldn't be having'. But it has nothing to do with either.
Working at 'One of the Big 5' basically means that you cannot have ANY technical conversation outside of the company using your work e-mail address. Even if that e-mail contains basic instructions on how to use printf().
I am basically asking if you have ever considered implementing private messages or targeted questions for a specific user?
Best Wishes,
-David Delaune
Edit:
Let me put it another way... I have friends at Google, NVIDIA, Intel and a few other companies. But I could *never* contact them using a work e-mail address. Sure we can chat on the phone or use our personal e-mail addresses but would never make direct contact using work e-mails (especially for technical or programming issues)
We do however.... sometimes chat over LinkedIn messenger... I am asking if you have ever considered doing something like this on codeproject.
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So even the initial outreach from you to them (assuming both you and them are signed into CodeProject with work addresses) would be a Bad Thing. Gotcha.
Short answer is: no, we don't have plans at the moment to offer private chat.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Would you consider suppressing avatar display along with home page stuff for under-repped members? Another discouraging nudge to spammers.
Cheers,
Peter
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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It starts to make it way too exclusive then. You're taking the fun away from 99.9% of users for a few who abuse.
I'd rather just focus on removing the abusers. I know it's harder, but it's better for the majority of those who are good.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Maybe I didn't express myself very well. I meant that you could apply the same "minimum rep" qualification to displaying avatars as you currently do for home page content. I would have thought that the vast majority of non-spammers would qualify pretty quickly.
Cheers,
Peter
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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I did understand what you meant, I'm just hesitant to penalise further those that are doing the right thing because a few miscreants abuse the system.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Personally I'm using the avatar as an extra indicator as to whether an account in the spam queue is a spammer or not. 
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There used to be a good rule on the codeproject that when someone gives an article rating less than 4 some verbal explanation is necessary. Why am I getting ones and twos without any explanation? How can I improve my article without knowing what the person was upset about?
In particular I talk about a recent 2 I got for Software Design Principles and Patterns in Pictures[^].
BTW the rating is clearly outside of the variance interval, yet it influenced the article's average (also something new).
Thanks
Nick Polyak
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I can understand your Frustration.
On the other side what will it help you if a (mandatory) comment for a low vote will be "asdflkjh"?
What I hink to see is, that the "2" comes from a higher rep mem. Maybe one should force mandatory comment for them 
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Hey
If someone puts "asdflkjh" as an explanation at least everyone would see that he is either a spammer or a malicious joker. After several "asdflkjh" such account can be forbidden.
Based on the negative score for the '2' the guy who gave it to me had a Golden level!. People with golden level should be a bit more responsible.
Thanks
Nick Polyak
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Quote: After several "asdflkjh" such account can be forbidden
That makes sense.
Quote: People with golden level should be a bit more responsible
Yep, that's why they should be forced to give a comment, because their votes Count more.
Anyway a difficult matter, and more or less it works at the Moment not that bad.
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For me it would also be ok, that one can see who voted how. But I see also the fights starting then with this Information...
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It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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The only value of a down vote is that it shows that something is wrong with the article to both the author and the readers. Without an explanation it is absolutely pointless.
Nick Polyak
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You have 14 x 5, 1 x 4 and 1 x 2, so most people think it's a good article. The 4 vote is most likely by someone who still thought it was a good article. The 2 you can ignore, either a mistake, or someone whose opinion is not worth worrying about.
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that's true, but still some explanation would be good. Also, until yesterday - such outlier vote would not be part of the average, while today it is part of it. Something changed in the algorithm.
Nick Polyak
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Forget about it, it is just something that happens on the internet. Not everyone who comes here is serious about software development.
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I am a little concerned because of two things
1. The guy who gave me a bad rating - has golden account
2. My previous article which recently won the competition for February Software Project Development and Decision Making[^] also got two bad grades: 1 and 2 apparently from two guys with golden accounts.
So it seems to me a bit of a persecution - may I say so
Nick Polyak
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Nick Polyak wrote: So it seems to me a bit of a persecution
Only if you wish to interpret it that way. Not everyone has to like your article. Some that don't vote that way others simply pass it by. Richard MacCutchan's comment hits the nail. The Internet is imperfect and the best way of dealing with that is to develop a thick skin.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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Hey, I am not too upset about it. Just wish to have an explanation that's it. My point is that the only benefit from negative ratings is when they are accompanied by an explanation.
Nick Polyak
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I looked over the votes on this one and they are from different people who aren't (from what I can see) on any vendettas.
For what it's worth here's a write up of my thinking on the matter[^].
cheers
Chris Maunder
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cool that's all I wanted to know concerning the people who gave me low votes.
Concerning the process - I do believe that while an article can be good in one way - it can be bad in 1000s of different ways and once someone gives a low mark - some explanation would be extremely beneficial. Perhaps it is possible to allow people to explain their bad marks anonymously or under a different alias?
Nick Polyak
modified 8-Apr-18 21:54pm.
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I see no 2 votes on your article. We do cache ratings for a short time so it may have been this. The algorithm hasn't changed in a long time.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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