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You read that subject line correctly. I'm one of the die-hards who's still rockin' a Zune. I actually bought it when MS pulled the plug on the original Zune, and the Zune HD was still a US-exclusive - that's well over a decade ago. Stores were clearing out their inventory and I paid $100 for it, including docking station and car adapter. I've owned cheaper MP3 players before that, but they all turned out to be pure garbage. And giving even a single dime to "that fruit company" goes against my religion or something. To me, the Zune was the right balance of (clearance) price and feature. Little did I know I'd ever get so much use out of an electronic device.

During its lifetime, it's been dropped on hard wood flooring and a concrete patio more times than I can count, and it's found itself half-buried in dirt once or twice when I accidentally kicked it when bending over to pick it up after dropping it. During this decade+, I've pretty much used it daily to listen to podcasts. I still haven't replaced the battery. I have no idea how long it can still go for between charges - but it's longer than I listen to it in a single sitting.

In any case...this last winter's been exceptionally dry, and for those who aren't aware of this sort of thing, dry cold air = lots of static electricity. I've been zapped around the house this winter a ridiculous number of times. Sometimes as I happened to pick up the Zune. A few times, that was bad enough to cause it to immediately reset itself (it never randomly resets itself otherwise as so many MS products do). I even once reset a laptop by zapping it.

About a month ago, it seems that this was one time too many. After it reset itself, it went back to a black screen. Holding down the power button (repeatedly) to force it to shut down/restart didn't seem to do much. I left it alone for a few hours, then tried again - the screen came back on, instructing me to hook it up to a computer with the Zune software via USB so it can reinstall the firmware. Neat trick if it can actually do that. How many devices today would simply be permanently bricked if they found themselves in that state?

Of course - and I guess this is my real rant - the Zune software tries to contact some MS server to download whatever firmware it can find. And that server's long been retired by now.

After a bit of googling, it seems like I'm not the first one in this situation...I did find a copy of the latest MS firmware files in someone's public Dropbox account and some (incomplete) instructions.

Long story short: With a web server in place that can serve the files, I set my hosts file to point to that machine's IP, and had it pretend to be resources.zune.net. Then the Zune software contacted it, downloaded and installed the firmware. After a final reset, the Zune is as good as new again. It didn't even wipe the podcasts I already had on it.

Now...dear Microsoft...it's one thing to keep a web server up and running, dedicated to hosting files that one guy might need a decade after a product's been discontinued. You could even have moved it to a tiny VM to make it more cost-effective, an idea you've been trying to push on to us since the first days of Azure. Too much still? What's the cost of hosting an additional 150MB worth of files on dedicated download servers that are already serving terabytes daily? The Zune software itself (that you install on a PC) is still available, but that doesn't include any firmware.

Anyway...after all this...the Zombie-Zune lives on.
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