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Great story.
Member 7989122 wrote: I know that ER modelling is considered outdated today, which I think is a pity,
I think it is only considered outdated because of things like Agile (which I am a proponent of)saying that you don't need docs (which is an extreme statement, created because so much documentation is done so poorly).
Documents, as in diagrams, and specifically UML and more specifically, the correct and proper UML doc can provide tons of benefit as a communication tool (not as a hammer to hit users over the head with a software designers genius).
You said ER but a very close cousin of that document is the Domain Model which uses the appropriate language (ubiquitous language of the users) and describes things just as you were explaining in the well-done documentation.
Most people just don't even know how to talk about how to build software and systems. They just kind of know how to start coding up some code that runs in an exe in some context. But that ain't creating solutions. And, it may very well be creating more problems.
Again, great story. Thanks for sharing.
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Were you strolling by The New Old Thing recently?
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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den2k88 wrote: Were you strolling by The New Old Thing recently?
I love repeating old, old ideas to new people (devs) so they open their eyes and see that the "new" methodologies have all been done before, they just have a shiny new name.
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The next time one of our service folks, who damned well ought to know better, includes a screen 'capture' taken from 3 feet away with their phone in a bug report, I'm going to lose my sh*t .
Software Zen: delete this;
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Gary Wheeler wrote: includes a screen 'capture' taken from 3 feet away with their phone
Yeah, you're right - that's far too close.
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Our application controls a printing press. The operator typically stands 2+ feet back from the monitor.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Shouldn't you be seeing the back of the operator's head then in those pictures taken 3 feet away?
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That would make it the right kind of screen shot. After all, isn't it sometimes the bit between the ears that's the root cause?
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I was going for a variation on PEBKAC. As described, the picture would include the source of the problem.
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That is too funny! Did they capture the back of the users head for you too?
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Gary Wheeler wrote: The next time...
Gary Wheeler wrote: ...I'm going to lose my sh*t
Next time?
I think you already did. It just didn't have an outward effect.
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Still better that: "it doesn't work".
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Guilty as charged, but I think it was legit in my case; just as everyone else does.
My situation:
1. Stupid hybrid hard-drive on laptop did not get along with Win 10 PreFetch, causing machine to overheat and shutdown.
2. Event log only had generic unexpected shutdown messages.
3. BIOS event log actually was logging all the shutdowns.
Been having the problem for about 6 months intermittently with no actions taken because they could not see evidence of what actual error was. Pulled up the BIOS event log and snapped a pic. Next day new laptop with an SSD the same size as what i had
Director of Transmogrification Services
Shinobi of Query Language
Master of Yoda Conditional
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Those I can understand. The controller app, which is a normal Windows app, not so much. [PrtScn] and Alt-[PrtScn] are your friends.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Does it still annoy if they have an optical zoom?
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Oh you just had to go there, didn't you?
Optical zoom is ok. Digital zoom causes immediate fecal loss.
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Gary Wheeler wrote: Digital zoom causes immediate fecal loss.
You crapped your pants?
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity."
- Hanlon's Razor
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See the OP; I lost my sh*t.
Software Zen: delete this;
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A very long time ago a customer of mine had a printer that printed the error reports...
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At one time we included one of our small ink-jet printers[^] as a log printer on these systems.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Well, that's at least a separate printer.
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If you fell in love with a squid, would she octopi your thoughts?
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I would only do it if she fell in love with me as well.
Squid pro quo!
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- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944
- Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. Mark Twain
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there goes another sucker
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