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It would be nice if youtube could show a message "we are down" instead of an error message. I thought it was a problem with my device or internet connection and tried to trouble shoot on all my devices before finding it out from internet.
TOMZ_KV
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I think Maps is the only thing I actually DO want installed  Maybe Google will be bros and just stop bundling worldwide otherwise I'll still be stuck with all those "Play XXXXX" apps and the Newsstand 
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Jon McKee wrote: I think Maps is the only thing I actually DO want installed
I use it quite frequently. For the other Google apps I don't need/want, I just disable them. I wish I could do the same with the preinstalled AT&T apps.
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Jon McKee wrote: "Play XXXXX" apps
I don't think "those" apps are bundled with Android, you must've installed them yourself.
Don't worry, we're not judging (a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do) 
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Nah there definately bundled. Well at least on the Sony & Acer devices I have here in the UK.
All I ever use is Maps, Chrome and GMail.
The rest are in rom though, so I can uninstall the updates, but not the actual app.
Not a big deal on my phone, but the tablet only has a few G of memory, and I'm lucky if I have a couple of hundred meg for my apps.
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Peter Shaw wrote: All I ever use is Maps, Chrome and GMail.
Same 
And Google Play to download new apps, suck as FB and WhatsApp.
Oh, and Skype came bundled, which I've been using for work lately.
Otherwise I've disabled as much from the bundled apps as I can.
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dunno why I've got ms word and excel on my phone, can't uninstall, can only disable.
never even bothered to try it to see what happens. (probably a trial, farkin ms sales phishing??)
as if I would ever want to edit documents/sheets on a 4" screen?
does anybody actually use orifice on a phone? tablet maybe if desperate, but a phone?
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I do occasionally when I'm traveling between clients.
Sometimes, If I'm in Cattle class on a train, there's no room to get the laptop out, so I'll use my Tablet instead.
It's really not that bad, and it's saved my bacon a few times when I've had deadlines to meet.
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Yup, I use it on the phone.
I've got serious problems with damn ever-updating Windows 10 on my private laptop, so if I only need to write a 3-line-notice-that-insurance-letter that I don't want to write on my business desktop, I won't boot my laptop for it. I do it on the phone and print it right away. That's really faster than having that laptop pulling updates half an hour before I can start using it.
It's really free, but pushes everything on OneDrive. And it doesn't have as many features as the desktop version - which you really don't need on your phone (and 99.999 % of times on your desktop neither).
I'm also doing some Excel for calculating e.g. our house building costs. Works fine. Don't need to start the laptop for entering “123.45 € for screws“.
By the way: does ANYONE really pay for Office 365 for private use? For what I'm doing most times Wordpad is sufficient - and if not there's always Office online and / or the apps. For those mentioned 3-line-letters or that tiny Excel sheet collecting costs prices for Office are WAY too high, IMO.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Please, please tell me I'll be able to uninstall Maps and the bloody Google News channel ...
NO!
Instead you will have a version modified (mostly visually only) by the phone manufacture... And we know how reliable the hardware guy when it comes to software...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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I guess some good can come from the EU.
They'll only stop bundling them in the EU though, and last time I checked you don't live there anymore 
Unless by EU they actually mean the continent (but they probably don't).
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Sander Rossel wrote: last time I checked you don't live there anymore
Who knows? With the EU being so intransigent it's possible we will either:
1) Stay in.
2) Leave with no agreement.
3) Invade and make them all part of the UK.
I can see advantages to all of them ... 
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OriginalGriff wrote: Invade and make them all part of the UK
This has been tried several times, with various success level. I think we should settle that the island is actually the best solution.
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Ah, but ... this time, if we invade the whole EU, by the time your sub-sub-committees have worked out a that an urgent response is needed and submitted it to the European Parliament for rejection because it doesn't meet the needs of the various special interest groups it'll be 2025 and you'll all be part of the EUK (Empire of the United Kingdom) or slaving away in a gulag ...
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Wouldn't a precision strike, erasing Brussels, be a win-win for all involved? ?
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Trouble is you won't get most of 'em.
They are quite partial to free holidays in the sun fact finding missions round the world.
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OriginalGriff wrote: you'll all be part of the EUK (Empire of the United Kingdom)
You should change your name to Darth Griff and I'll be joining the resistance 
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I find your lack of faith disturbing
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I'd say there's still good in you, but I doubt there was ever any good in there to begin with
*Get's force choked*
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OriginalGriff wrote: you'll all be part of the EUK (Empire of the United Kingdom) or slaving away in a gulag ...
The options are not mutually exclusive... :evil grin:
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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Use a custom rom such as LineageOS. No preinstalled google apps at all. If you want/need some of the apps then you can install OpenGapps Pico. This will install just enough functionality to use the play store, from there you just install the apps you ACTUALLY want not what google wants you to have.
modified 6-Sep-22 21:01pm.
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If only they could get Samsung to do the same. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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An EU $5B anti-trust ruling against Google?
Just in time to help with the problems in Italy's budget ? ? ?
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