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GeneralWinTen vs. Rogue Wifi Card Pin
kmoorevs3-Dec-18 16:51
kmoorevs3-Dec-18 16:51 
I've been embattled with my wife's 5 y/o all-in-one HP system for over a week. When we came home from Thanksgiving travel, it was blue-screened with an error of 'machine check exception'. After trying all the usual fixes (it's had issues with updates in the past) and getting nowhere, I decided to let Windows reinstall while saving the files and personal files. That also failed. I decided that it must be hardware related and planned a strategy for saving her files and getting her system back.

I first pulled the HDD and hooked it up to another system and pulled all of her stuff. The plan was to do a fresh WinTen install on a new SSD and get another RAM chip in case that was the bad component. Luckily, my local supplier had everything in stock (prices on SSDs just keep getting better) so I walked out with a new 480GB SSD, a 4GB laptop memory chip, and a copy of WinTen Home on a tiny USB stick. Everything seems to be going to plan until the first restart when it says 'Setting Up Devices'. At 50% it froze, then blue-screened with the same error message as before. Mad | :mad: Confused | :confused:

Swap out the single memory chip for the new one and try again...same result. OK, so it's not the memory...start removing panels and devices, changing bios device settings and retrying. Over the last 24 hours, I must have typed in that 25 character key over a dozen times, and watched countless hours of spinning balls, only to be met with failure...until I tried about the only 'simple' device to remove, the wifi adapter, held in place by a single screw. Whoever tightened that little screw over-torqued it and it put up a fight. A few minutes with a pair of mini-cutters (I call them dykes, but I don't know why) and I finally got it loose. I repeat the install with advanced options, again deleting all the new partitions that the installer seems intent on creating, enter the crazy long key again, and wait patiently...'Setting Up Devices'...and it completes! Smile | :) Smile | :) Ah, victory!

I connected it to the outside world using the LAN and it set about getting any unknown device drivers. The system is way better now than new, the biggest reason being the SSD upgrade, but also because it doesn't have all of that crapware that HP puts on. It was a decent system until the 10 upgrade when it would fail during updates and would take more than a minute to get to the login screen, then at least another two minutes before being usable. Now it's less than 10 seconds, so an instant improvement. Luckily, I re-use the memory chip that turned to be OK, and double the RAM and get even better...can't hurt.

And now back to the headline...how is it that a mature OS such as WinTen can be stopped dead in it's tracks by a rogue Wifi NIC? It's not a critical device so why not disable it and move on? Also, it would have been nice to show the device name in either the error in the blue screen, or during the installation so I might have had a clue as to where to start!

Since this issue first occurred after an update on a working WinTen system, it wouldn't surprise me that someone here may experience the same issue. Sorry, I haven't yet looked at the old HDD to determine which update broke it, but the fact that a fresh WinTen installation also failed has me baffled...although, I can't rule out the fact that the NIC may have suddenly suffered a meltdown causing chaos for the OS...or the installation keys at the stores are really up to date! Confused | :confused:

Alas, she probably won't be happy that I won't be eating crow and going back to buy the new 'prettier' one with a bigger screen that she was checking out while I was rounding up parts. Laugh | :laugh: Now, if I can just find all those screws... Laugh | :laugh: And to think, I was really close to offering a free boat anchor here! Laugh | :laugh:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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