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The things people will do to dodge taxes!
Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)
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I thought French women were best just prior to 70.
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The 60 has to do with their lack of a number for 70, 80, 90, . . .
PIEBALDconsult wrote: I thought French women were best just prior to 70.
As far as frenchmen go, and they go pretty far, even an empty escargot shell will suffice . . . . . . .
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"Zak suggests that in 1934 it was not Calment's daughter Yvonne who died of pleurisy, as official records say, but Jeanne Calment herself. Yvonne then took on her mother's identity in order to avoid paying inheritance tax."
I can believe that entirely.
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Also in terms of antiquities I am noting that the link is on Yahoo.
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I woke up to find some wag had written "mong" on my windscreen.
Took me ages to lick it off.
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Pom Pey wrote: Took me ages to lick it off.
Probably because the frost froze your tongue to the glass. I had the same problem.
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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... well, if the developers are doing work then surely they are also servers, working for their masters.
but anyway there is such a thing as serverless without servers, pretty much anything designed as a single connection point-to-point is serverless, hell walkie-talkies for instance are serverless.
(just thought of walkies coz today I was "supposed to carry one" around - hah! left the damn thing on the desk and walked away to another floor to do other stuff - crap anyway, couldn't understand a word through the crackle)
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Lopatir wrote: but anyway there is such a thing as serverless without servers, pretty much anything designed as a single connection point-to-point
Right, but they couldn't make up a new term for that since they already have "peer-to-peer".
They had to invent a new technology ala serverless. 
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In my experience, what is passed off as "new technology" is often just the same old stuff with a different name.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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Kind of like how "microservices" is really just separation of concerns?
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LOL. I've spent a lot of time trying to be wowed by microseconds. I've not succeeded.
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Try walking into a company that is using them a lot for years with no idea how to actually use them and then try to sort through the mess.
Then you will experience a "wow" moment.
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Marketing morons and salesmen are usually of the type that doesn't understand a damned thing about technology, but can talk bollocks about sport with customers till the cows come home.
So you need sports analogies, to get technical points across.
Try
"Do you think it would be possible to have serverless tennis, you **cking moron? The ball has to come from somewhere!"
Catch
The penny, as it drops.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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It's really very cool technology though...
I've written about it and I'm planning on doing a presentation at my company later this year.
With serverless I can finally host my websites and databases without needing my own physical server or a system admin for that matter.
In that sense the word isn't even completely wrong, as far as I'm concerned there are no servers to worry about.
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Sander Rossel wrote: as far as I'm concerned there are no servers to worry about.
I don't worry about gravity on a regular basis.
Does that mean I am gravityless? 
modified 3-Jan-19 8:06am.
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"as far as I am concerned there are no servers to worry about"
and therein lies the problem. This thread explicitly lays the blame for the misinformation the 'serverless' term conveys at the feet of marketing. That much is a no-brainer. The real problem, as I see it, is the falsehood the quote conveys. There is plenty of reason to be wary of servers, server farms and data centers in general: lack of real data security, ownership and privacy, not to mention lack of inherent scalability. Let's see what happens when IoT blows up internet usage by a factor or 10 to 100 or more. I'm sure hierarchical providers will come up with stop-gap measures, but you can be assured they won't be real serverless solutions.
For a real serverless archecture see www.hiveware.com.
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Only in space 
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But isn't your computer the server, then?
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No, the server is somewhere in some data center out of my control.
My computer is only used for development.
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The only way I am going to keep my self sane on this is separating out "Server" the hardware and server software.
MS SQL Server is not a Server.
You will want to run that in Windows Server, which also is not a Server, but make sure you provision and heft Server to run that on. You would run SQL Server on a desktop, but a Server would be better.
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maze3 wrote: The only way I am going to keep my self sane on this is separating out "Server" the hardware and server software.
That's a good point.
And it is interesting that the word "server" is so ambiguous. Well, so many things in IT are ambiguous really. It's why so many people have the same titles but do entirely different things at different companies.
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