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#realJSOP wrote: the boss told me not to let the guy sway me from the path I was on.
The path of working for free - at home in your spare time - No, I can see why he would want you to continue that! 
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I was kicked out from the customer because I dared to rewrite a piece of code that had to be shipped and was not working (at all) instead of "fixing it". Which would have been doable if not for the the fact that the code was:
* several functions 300 to 700 lines long;
* not commented in the least;
* the variables had all names as y_cr2, l_in2, l_yi1 and so on and the code was heavily arithmetic;
* the framework it leant upon is incomplete and honestly a large piece of Idontwanttobevulgar.
Luckily I got placed in projects managed internally and ended up working on the Pininfarina new electric hypercar (I'm a petrolhead but 1900hp and 0-60 in under 2 seconds is still amazing) and now I'm working on an exceedingly complex project which happens to be extremely interesting and a huge learning opportunity.
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I was kicked out of my first job because...
I had to add a function into a machine originally programmed by another worker of the company. I finish pretty soon and the customer wanted me to have a look into the accuracy of the results. The delta between desired to result was over 10%, after some work I reduced it to 0,3%.
I used 20 hours more than the original project was offered, but customer bought a following project with that 20 hours and 100 more to do the same in all other 3 machines programmed by the same guy.
Other guy I had to help and do the SCADA for him... got pissed off because I detected errors in the variables he was giving me to do the panel. As he didn't helped me I had a look into the program just to find even more errors. He started bitching around and the boss dumped me because I was not good for the working clima 
But...
Thanks that I moved on, I found another job, I met my wife in the new city and now I am in a job earning between 3 and 4 times more what I earned back them.
Sometimes bad news are for the good 
M.D.V. 
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Nelek wrote: Thanks that I moved on, I found another job, I met my wife in the new city and now I am in a job earning between 3 and 4 times more what I earned back them.
Now, that is flawless victory.
Nelek wrote: the boss dumped me because I was not good for the working clima
I concur with him, their working clima definitely deserved mediocre workers at best.
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den2k88 wrote: I concur with him, their working clima definitely deserved mediocre workers at best.
That's exactly what I thought (after the first two days of  and almost  , I told me... screw them )
M.D.V.
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I totally understand that. It0s not easy and the first days there is always that sense of personal failure that's irrational but hard to deal with. And in my case it was actually me that dropped the sponge first!
I take sunshine from noone and that glorified middle manager ain't special. Still it hurt being cast out. I discovered most of my best colleagues has been cast out from one customer or another so I'm starting to believe it's actually quite natural.
Getting away from that customer netted me 25% more of effective salary so it has been a real win situation for me.
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Back in the 80's, I was laid off from Intuit because I wrote a hardware managnment system to help me keep track of the hardware the company was using, beginning with a room stacked floor-to-ceiling with what they called "dead machines". I think it angered/scared one of their lead developers (back then, they were using Turbo Pascal to write TurboTax, and I used Turbo Pascal for my hardware management system).I was laid off the day after I demo'd the software to management (at their request), and was told "we don't think you'll be happy here". I replied, "Based on the way you're handling this, I would probably have to agree."
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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#realJSOP wrote: I replied, "Based on the way you're handling this, I would probably have to agree."
Thankfully I'm not the only one with the sharp retorts.
Laying someone off because they are doing a good job is unbelievably stupid, but it seems that the World is much much more stupid that what it appears.
My current work environment is definitely not of that kind, luckily.
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I was laid off from my first job because I was ahead of my schedule and therefore considered expendable. Next job was better and more interesting.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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Rick York wrote: I was laid off from my first job because I was ahead of my schedule
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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#realJSOP wrote: "we don't think you'll be happy here". I replied, "Based on the way you're handling this, I would probably have to agree."
Clearly, the truth hurt them more than it hurt you. 
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Resistance to resistance to movement is futile.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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...is in user interface controls.
They all suck. Grids particularly are my current bane. The screen is never wide enough to fit all the crap, scrolling horizontally sucks, etc. etc. etc.
I wish 3D VR was a consumer commodity like flat screens. The 2D look, and trying to jam all this information on a 2D surface (where many of the controls, like grids, are pseudo 2D -- they are really just stacked 1D things) is well past its time and its prime.
An unfortunately, we're not using a grid control that has collapsible sections.
Oh, and did I mention it's a web page? More suckness.
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Being a web page makes it harder to make a grid control usable. It makes it harder to make ANY control usable.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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#realJSOP wrote: Being a web page makes it harder to make a grid control usable. It makes it harder to make ANY control usable.
That may change with the migration away from JavaScript to WebAssembly.
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… is in the fans and the (non-SSE) hard drives! 
Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)
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What we need is holographic displays, any size, any resolution and probably 3d. I thought more would be done with Kinect but that seems to have fizzled.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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A colleague of mine regularly states that "What we need is infinitely fast machines, and lots of them!"
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A grid is very rarely the right tool.
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A web page is very rarely the best UI
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"A web page is very rarely the best UI"
Web page can be any UI you need it to be. The problem is web app designer, not the web technology itself.
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I strongly disagree. The underlying technology is the reason creating a good controls for a web app is so difficult. Using a browser for applications was and still is a horrible idea.
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Yes, it's hard to make good UI widgets/controls. That's why you don't make the controls yourself but use some UI library/framework to build your web apps. You can use DevExtreme, Kendo UI, webix, Ionic, Sencha ExtJS and many other advanced UI toolkits.
Also, when you are creating Winforms/WPF or any other .Net UI framework apps, you don't usually build your own basic UI widgets, but use built-in stuff plus some 3rd party framework (DevExpress?).
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I have an online game I developed over many years. I create a web-based UI to interact with it and it was a nightmare! I had fun with SVG to create the multiple zoomable, clickable, scrollable, hover-overable maps needed but apart from that (which was only a small nightmare) the rest of it was horrendous!
I wrote a WinForm program that used a web-service to get data to and from the game server and it was a joy to write. Everything just worked as it was supposed to, clicks and hovers, etc just responded instantly the way I wanted. I was able to get it done so quickly compared with fighting with the web programming that I could add dozens of extra, useful features. All the friends I had that were play testing for me adopted it in easy preference to the web UI (except for the guy who had a iCrap PC instead of a proper one and so used the Web UI).
The Winform program updated itself automatically from the server each time it started up (if necessary) so there were no issues with it being out of date (one of the arguments in favour of a web interface although there are often caching problems that can break this "advantage") so I just would push out updates whenever I needed to.
WinForms rule!
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