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I use Chrome all the time on Windows. I can't use Chrome on Linux because it seems to suck up all my RAM and swap space after a couple of hours of having maybe 5 or 6 tabs open, which is pretty ridiculous. So I have to use FF on Linux which crashes almost constantly .
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I use Google Chrome on Debian Wheezy all the time. It works flawlessly, with a reasonable use of RAM and swap space.
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It was so quick and I didn't read the question well... Needless to say IE is not a browser, it is actually a way to frustrate developers.
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Don't speak a word about IE..
It is the best browser...
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to download chrome.
World is short of ideas!
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Wait, is this 2008?
These jokes were funny then, but now they're just lame.
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Posted from Internet Explorer 10 on Windows 7
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
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and so is ie..
it is a lame joke compared to chrome and firefox..
it doesn't even deserve new jokes.
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I did get a chance to see one in that 13%
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp[^]
Jokes apart.. IE does has its own value, at least for official use. But it still have to prove its capabilities in terms of HTML5, Acid3, robohornet etc..
Posted from Chrome 26 on Windows XP [With no such plan to upgrade]
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Except if your web application does not support mobile devices. We also support IE7 which takes most of the effort.
..Go Green..
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"What's a browser? I've never heard of it."
Not me, but I'm just wondering how many persons doesn't know what a browser is.
The quick red ProgramFOX jumps right over the Lazy<Dog> .
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I saw this today and looks very promising!!!!
Browser checking, download vms for local testing on all major browsers..... Also many references to IE10
http://www.modern.ie/en-us[^]
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I redirect IE 8 o lower to an upgradebrowser.htm page which gently invites the user to "upgrade your obsolete browser" or so.
This page have the proper links for downloading chrome, firefox, safari, IE9, or Opera.
After all we're in 2013
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So you are the one.
As a user, I actually get annoyed by sites that do this (as a developer, I completely understand the reasons for doing so). Since I am on XP I cannot upgrade to IE9 (or IE10 for that matter). I have Chrome, Firefox and Safari installed for testing. I have used Firefox quite a bit in the past and I am trying to get used to Chrome, but I keep going back to IE for my day-to-day use.
I guess it's the little things, such as:
- Non-Microsoft browsers do not work as well with the Outlook/Exchange Web thing I use for my work email.
- Occasionally I will come across a video clip that will not load in Chrome, but plays just fine in IE.
- I like the way the Bookmark/Favorites list drops down in IE, whereas I don't like the Bookmark bar in Chrome. I know I can open the Bookmark Manager in Chrome with a key combination, but I don't like that it shows up in a new tab.
Things like that.
Recently I mostly find drawbacks with IE8 when I am on CodeProject: No automatic preview while composing messages like this (I actually don't understand that since the Preview works great when composing Answers in QA). The emoticons are not animated (I am pretty sure they were a few months ago).
Tiny things.
I know more and more sites will stop supporting IE8 very soon and it is high time I upgrade my OS, but until then, I will probably continue to mainly use IE8 and bring up Chrome for certain things.
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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I'm with you on this issue. Not as far down the road though.
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Quote: more and more sites will stop supporting IE8 very soon What makes you think they will give up on the thousands and thousands of XP users who cannot change to IE9 or IE10 (both of which work fine for me - I test on Chrome, Safari, Firefox and IE 7,8,9,10 for my work). As long as they can keep selling things to people, and there are enough people using it, they will not give up on it just because the latest and greatest is out.
I suspect, unlike previous new browser versions, the break between XP and going to Vista, Win7 or the execrable Win8 (AKA Lose8) require to change will slow that rate of change after the early adopters and version jumpers have had their go. I expect this will still leave a considerable number of users remaining to proffer wares to.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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First off, I am also one of those (I think it is more than thousands) of XP users and I have no agenda for pushing this view, but I read an article recently that made a lot of sense why 2013 can be the year where the use of IE8 will see a dramatic drop.
I cannot remember where I saw the article, but it mentioned things like.
- Microsoft will end support of XP next year.
- IE8 does not support HTML5.
- jQuery 2.0 does not support IE8.
Here is a site that has already dropped support for IE8: https://github.com[^]
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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Quote: Here is a site that has already dropped support for IE8: https://github.com[^] Yes, well based on recent events on that system it's not a big loss!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Quote: IE9 is unusable Yes it is. I used it all the time until a couple of weeks ago I changed to IE10 - which also works fine. I had no more problems with it than with Chrome (also used heavily) and many less problems than with Firefox or Safari (which just acts weird occasionally).
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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That's just user hostile. There are lots of reasons not to upgrade (such as "my company won't let me", or "the browser needs to work with this legacy software I've already spent thousands on"), and involving what are probably non-techie people in your religious war* against IE is not something they should have to care about.
* It is a religious war because you imply that are doing this for IE - what happens if they are using Firefox 1? How about Netscape? Lynx?
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At work (hospital system) I have to deal with a few important websites redirect to a page that says I need IE4 to IE6. Good thing there is compatibility view.
John
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I personally am not a fan of supporting the older IE versions and only do so because of requirements to support customers with older machines.
Personally I would be happy to stick customers with older IEs with Chrome frame or just telling them to upgrade.
as if the facebook, twitter and message boards weren't enough - blogged
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IMHO the problem is not the users who run older browsers but Microsoft who will not upgrade or allow upgrades of the browser on older operating systems. If you have XP for example, you are not able to update past IE8. This is a business decision by Microsoft. ... and how hard is it really to upgrade a browser on an older operating system? For that matter, why does the operating system matter (versus browser version)? Firefox 19 runs on Windows 2000, why not IE10?
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H.Brydon wrote: he problem is not the users who run older browsers but Microsoft who will not upgrade
Absolutely!!!
as if the facebook, twitter and message boards weren't enough - blogged
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Actually, as far as I can tell, Internet Explorer 9+ requires both Direct2D, even if only with software support, and newer APIs that weren't part of the XP Win32 API (even Vista needed a Platform Update because of that) and Microsoft decided not to port either to an aging and soon to be discontinued OS.
I get that it's a problem for everybody still using XP but I also get that eventually Microsoft needed to start letting it go.
Also, if you're still using Windows XP, you have bigger problems than not being able to run IE 9+. The expiration clock is ticking and will run out in about one year.
Firefox, on the other hand, uses the much older (and much less efficient for this specific function) Direct3D APIs that have been developed for Windows 95.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
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That Lynx is no longer considered a browser worth supporting.
“Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed” “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”
Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)
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