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I don't get it. So long as no-one is talking to me or touching me, and there is no LOUD noise, I can be anywhere. I don't care about background noise ( if it's there I put headphones on, where-ever I am ), or who is around me ( the guy who said the coffee shop is full of beautiful women, if you're looking at them, how are you working ? ), if I'm focused on the PC, that's what I'm focused on. The hard part is coming out of the zone at just the right time to go catch my bus, I usually find myself racing the clock for one last compile and test before I go home.
Christian
Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002
During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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Christian Graus wrote:
What does it matter
Even thought it does not matter to me either (except that I can actually work in a loud noise as well as in the silence) I can understand that some people might need a special conditions to work confortable.
It's just that people are different and tolerate the same conditions differently.
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are you "in the zone" every single day, all day? if so, you are a true machine and Intel should name a processor after you  . but i, personally, have days where i drift in and out of the zone. and while i'm out, i might as well be someplace nice while i read the email, proof-read someone's help file, whatever.
-c
Green's Law of Debate:
Anything is possible if you don't know what you're talking about.
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No, there are days when I feel like hell. In those days, it would not matter WHERE I was.
Christian
Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002
During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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For me it depends on the noise - right now I have a guy sitting near me sniffing...sniffing...sniffing - didn't his mother ever teach him to blow his nose! OK, guess that should have gone in the Soapbox, but as the thread was up here...
Headphones can block most things out, what I would find perfect would be if the dev team were in a room isolated from the noise of other depts. We have just moved from Canary Wharf (where dev's were alone) to Maidstone in a huge open plan office. Damn those sales people are noisy on the phone! 
Dave Goodman on funny error messages:
It is a definite no-no to run BITMAP as a user command. Your nose will grow, your lawn will die, your hair will fall out, and your first-born will marry an aardvark. Shame on you!
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We sales reps are noisy for a living, so it's hard to tone it down ( I was a rep for 7 years ).
Christian
Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002
During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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In San Diego there's a coffee house chain called "The Living Room". I loved going there with my laptop and getting work done. I didn't need Internet accesss, the food was great, the women were beautiful (UCSD and SD State students mostly!), and the desserts were out of this world. Coupled with cool and different music, antique style furniture, I loved it. I'm still trying to find something like it here in Rhode Island.
Marc
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It's very interesting. I like the idea.
But I don't have a laptop. 
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No office environment is productive if it allows interruptions to intense concentration. The dumbest idea ever to be spawned by beancounters was the bullpen office layout for technical people, followed closely by the cubicle farm. Every interruption to an intensely creative mental process causes an average of 20 minutes lost time, over and above the time required to service the interrupt. At least, that was the number quoted in an article last year about a study of productivity in technical jobs. My personal experience confirms this figure (roughly), though your mileage may vary. It doesn't take many unscreened phone calls, ad hoc meetings, and drop in visitors to render an entire day or week completely non-productive. That's the reason so many people report a feeling of great accomplishment on days when they come in an hour before the rest of the staff. That one hour was probably the only time all day when any useful work was accomplished.
Word of the day: Rotundacrat
Extra Credit will be awarded for: Quasimobo...
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Roger Wright wrote:
That one hour was probably the only time all day when any useful work was accomplished.
So true. !!
It's the only way to work.
Regardz
Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining.
Said by Roger Wright about me.
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kilowatt wrote: When I am at home, I usually only sit at the computer when I feel like working, hence I am more productive at home.
Quite agree with him. When working at home I can totally concentrate at the current task and finish it, for example, in a day instead of a week.
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I have to disagree.
At home, I sit in the middle of my family, someone wants me to do something everytime, and i WANT to play with my little daughter when at home.
There is no time for several hours of concentrated thinking in one big chunck. Only a new distraction every few minutes.
I would not be able to work in the middle of all those distractions, and I do understand our CEO who does not allow home working very much.
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jhwurmbach wrote:
someone wants me to do something everytime, and i WANT to play with my little daughter when at home
That is part of "working when I want to". When my daughter is around I love to play with and be with my family as well. But I am able to find times to be away from them while I am at home as well. I think that as long as you are not forced to work between 8AM-5PM while at home, you could work when you wanted to.
I generally stay up late in the evening working, that is when I feel most productive. I do not want to drive into the office at 10PM and stay there until 4 AM, so I work from home.
There are also times when you have to work between 8AM-5PM in order to get an important project done, in that case my computer is in a separate office, I can shut the door, and I am not available to anyone in the house.
I think that is better to have all of your developers in the same office in order to better collaborate on projects. But when I am generally the only developer at my office, I would rather work at home.
Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for a day
Light a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life!
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"from 10PM and until 4 AM", exactly.
Twin soul
#ifndef
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here, too.
-c
Green's Law of Debate:
Anything is possible if you don't know what you're talking about.
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I generally only work at home when I have to. For every distraction in the office (people bugging you, phone rining, etc.), there is something equally distracting at home (cat clawing on your leg, phone still ringing, etc.)
The times I most often work at home are when, for instance, I have called a plumber, and they say they'll arrive sometime between 8am and noon... 
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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When I had a loan of one of my mates laptops I used to do a lot of work in the park. I'd sit under a tree in the park and work away to my hearts contempt. I would I have been really cool if I could have logged onto the net through wireless but maybe in the future.
Regards,
Brian Dela 
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Just a mistake I made. Sorry 
Regards,
Brian Dela
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Nishant S wrote:
was LOLing uncontrollably for a while
Why? It's call "My backyard back home". During summer I'd take the laptop or some manuals outside and sit in the deckchair under a shady tree.
It's not bad. I'd recommend it to anyone 
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Ooooh. Nish was laughing at Chris! Everyone duck! *Bolt of lightning comes out of the clear blue sky over Trivandrum and fries Nish, turning him into a pile of smoldering ashes with a 56K connection.*
Norm Almond: I seen some GUI's in my life but WTF is this mess
Leppie: I made an app for my sister and she wouldnt use it till it was colorful enough
Norm:good point leppie, from that statement I can only deduce that this GUI must be aimed at children
Leppie:My sister is 25
-Norm on the MailMagic GUI
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Nishant S wrote:
Seriously I wonder if anyone's tried to do that!
Sure. When i was younger, i would do this frequently, as lush, green gardens were easily accessible, and my work consisted of 1) tilling, planting, tending, and harvesting things that grew in the gardens, 2) school work, and 3) whatever tasks my own bored mind found for me to do. Generally, all three of these were easier to do outside in the gardens or woods than indoors.
These days, i don't find as much time to work outdoors, though if i get around to buying a laptop it might happen...
Shog9
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And on the pedestal, these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings,
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains.
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Not sure about you guys but I find that the time of day (or rather how long I have been awake) is a big factor. I do not get much development done in the mornings and so dedicate it to production, proposals, specs and answering emails. Only about midday do I really get into the swing of things and start zoning in properly. I find about 6pm I am at my peak and then taper off to about 10pm.
As for the location. I like an open plan, relaxed busy office. I do not need peace and quite.
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