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At least it wasn't in the Lounge?
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
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Based on the fact you can't even work out the correct place to post a question, probably best to just drop the programming part and just go buy some software that does what you want (or find a free alternative).
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Saw this too late, but I posted it in the right topic this morning.
Noboby is perfect, and my name is not Nobody, that's for sure.
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And sure enough, VS is way out there in front.
The best IDE in the world, despite it's bugs and annoyances.
Just shows what MS can actually do when they try.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Agree. That said I use VS Code except in very rare situations when I need a Windows debugger. I can use it on Linux, which is my primary development platform, but even on Windows I just like it better than the old VS nowadays.
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tbh I do not think VS is a good IDE. Not since I worked with intelliJ.
It has tons of features, agreed, and it can develop "anything" - but exactly this is the problem... there is too much of... everything.
VS behaves like a dinosaur, is slow and unresponsive. the intelliSense works like in the 90's, the console log is a pure horror and you only want to run away (at least when you have worked with the excellent real-time filtering in intelliJ - even regex-based), the search-function is as-bad-as it could be ... no honestly, VS is not even in the top 3 of my favorite IDEs.
all those QoL features are lightyears behind intelliJ. Not even a scope feature is there, different views on a project... no..no.. sorry - VS is behind. WAY behind. It's just so popular because C# is popular. but popular does not mean, it's good.
just my 2 cent
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Frankly, that's how I feel about IntelliJ. Tons of poorly integrated features, slow and a memory hog. I use VS Code even for Java - admittedly it's not my primary language.
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I wanted to start a thread about IntelliJ but since you already mentioned it, I'll say this here.
I last used it several years back, but I simply don't get the hype. In fact, it felt worse than VS. It was clunky, slow and... just didn't come off well at all.
Sorry, not trying to start a war or anything, but I just don't get how it's that popular.
Cheers,
Vikram.
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I have to agree, I found IntelliJ to be lacking. It felt very under-developed. Kinda like the developers kept getting "new and shiny" syndrome half way through developing features so you'd end up with a whole lot of cool stuff that worked, sometimes.
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Mike Barthold wrote: Not even a scope feature is there, different views on a project... no..no.. sorry - VS is behind
Visual Studio has those features.
I don't use them, so I can't say how good they are, but they are there.
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The question was not which was the best but the one most of us use. Probably because it is the most commercially viable. I never even tried any of the others because I always coded in c# (last 20 years anyway)
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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But this is mostly a .Net forum to be fair...
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It's a good try, I admin that.
But how can you say it is the best IDE when you have not tried them all ?
How can you now it is better then others, when you did not worked with the others as much as with VS ?
I have not worked with many others, except Delphi
And though VS has some very usefull things in it's IDE that Delphi does not have, I would still choose Delphi.
But, there other IDE's that I have not worked in yet, so I cannot say that VS or Delphi is the best, simply because I don't have enough information about the others.
So, when you claim that VS is the best, does that means you have worked with all the others just as much ? Where do you base this on ?
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Notepad++
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Hey, don't forget about VIM, or hell even just VI
The one time I saw someone write code (not just copy and paste) in-front of an audience of thousands, they used VIM.
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i use it for "HTML programming"
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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html, xml, bat, bash, scripting, pls...
I use for almost everything where I just need to see something / maybe make a small change but VS would be like trying to kill a fly with a cannon, more than nothing because I don't need the compiler, either they are data read by another app or are "self-executing"
Even when I am coding in a big VS project, I use it to search in some files in other places and keep them opened to Alt+Tab comfortably but not messing with what I am actively editing.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Keil and STMIDE are Eclipse derived IDEs and they suck just as much as the original.
Missing: QT Creator, which is surprisingly good. Missing also Multi IDE, used by GreenHills for some microcontrollers. The last one is buggy and ugly, probably the worst of the bunch, and the only one that can debug some uCs so...
EDIT: I forgot Arduino Studio. Halfway between Notepad and an alpha version of a cheap knockoff of VS6.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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I know it's based on intelliJ, but it's still something completely different. Android Studio is a huge IDE, should really be on the list.
You can code all you need in Unity or Unreal too, should also be considered an IDE. At least as kind of "Game Engine IDE (Unity, Unreal, ...)" entry in the list.
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