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Yes, this is April 14
Yes, there will be a huge number of calls to an income tax software company.
And no, you can't get through to a living human.
Nor can you get the software to download.
This, after paying them money.
https://www.taxact.com
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When the Swedish tax agency opened their online tax declaration site a couple of weeks ago, it was completely sunk by all the requests and unavailable for several hours.
Apparently, it came as just a big a surprise to the tax people as the fact that it snows every winter comes to the train companies (EVERY winter)... 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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I've only one question - and since you posted you've sort of volunteered to answer it (or at least be subjected to it).
Why do you wait until April 14th for this? Some financial document might not arrive until a month or so into the new year - but after that - waiting doesn't save anything - just risks excessive stomach acid flow induced sores.
Even when I had to do partnership taxes in order to do my regular taxes I still had it roughed out (I new the numbers) and left myself some leeway.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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W∴ Balboos wrote: waiting doesn't save anything
It does if you owe money. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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The amount due is fixed.
So -
one could have the money in what passes for a good saving account (1%), which amounts to about 87 cents/month per $1K.
But,
if you owe a lot of money then you'll likely have penalties accumulating at a substantially higher interest rate because you underpaid your withholdings.
Now - on the other hand - if they don't have the money to pay to begin with and waiting allows them to raise the funds - then they could avoid userous loans. They could also be expecting to die before it's due and leave the debt to whoever will clean up after them.
But, I'm no tax attorney or brilliant accountant. What have I missed?
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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W∴ Balboos wrote: one could have the money in what passes for a good saving account (1%), which amounts to about 87 cents/month per $1K.
Could be.
W∴ Balboos wrote: if you owe a lot of money then you'll likely have penalties accumulating at a substantially higher interest rate because you underpaid your withholdings.
How so? For example, let's say you'll end up owing $5,000. But you have $10,000 in your savings account. Just wait till the end and pay the $5,000. No penalties.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: How so? For example, let's say you'll end up owing $5,000. But you have $10,000 in your savings account. Just wait till the end and pay the $5,000. No penalties.
It's not on the amount absolute amount you owe but the relative amount.
The law is you must (pre)pay (withholding+prepayments) the lesser of 90% of the taxes due or as much as paid in the previous year. So - if you owe more than either of these amounts you can be hit with a penalty for underpaying your withholdings. I felt the sting of this once.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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W∴ Balboos wrote: It's not on the amount absolute amount you owe but the relative amount.
The law is you must (pre)pay (withholding+prepayments) the lesser of 90% of the taxes due or as much as paid in the previous year. So - if you owe more than either of these amounts you can be hit with a penalty for underpaying your withholdings. I felt the sting of this once.
I'm not sure what you're talking about with all this, all I was doing was giving you 1 example of where it makes sense to wait to pay.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Pretty sure you can file early and schedule the payment for later (ie. April 15th).
There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.
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By postdating a check? I've never seen that work.
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It's 2016 dude. People pay electronically...
There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.
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Mike Mullikin wrote: People pay electronically
Which makes me question your statement even more. Whenever I have paid electronically, I don't put a date on it.
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RyanDev wrote: I don't put a date on it.
Maybe you should.
There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.
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There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Why do you wait until April 14th for this?
For that very reason, i.e., get it done today.
W∴ Balboos wrote: Some financial document might not arrive
Correct. There is a thing called an extension in such cases
By doing this on the 14th, there is a psychological imperative which allows true prioritization.
It's interesting how many "immediately urgent" matters just aren't so urgent and just aren't so immediate.
I wish I had the discipline to invoke this kind of mindset every day of my life.
Oh, and update to my original post: they fixed their phone, I spoke to a human, and I'm back in action on my taxes.
TaxAct is wonderful
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Hard to have much sympathy for folks who wait until the last moments to file... particularly when they are relying on PC's, the internet, etc...
Good luck! ![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
BTW - Pretty sure the US federal deadline is Monday, April 18 this year if that helps.
I've used TaxAct for more than a decade without issue, but then again I usually file in February.
There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.
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Update, it was early morning phone failure.
Just spoke to a living human, got the magic sauce, I am filing taxes
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So intelligence cannot arise without intelligence create it... 
evolution believer will be angry now
modified 14-Apr-16 11:01am.
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Sure it can - like it always does - and always has: by accident.
Ask those million monkeys on their million typewriters for a million years.
Message to self: Locate. Exterminate.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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I've seen no evidence of intelligence yet..
The whole thing's rigged to blow, touch those tanks and "boooom"!
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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Maybe they ought to concentrate on artificial stupidity??? They seem more successful in that area...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Thing is, it's not artificial
The whole thing's rigged to blow, touch those tanks and "boooom"!
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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Personally, as Griff can vouch for, I've been researching the possibility of Alcohol Enhanced Intelligence™ (desperately seeking the Ballmer peak). But it's not working out quite as expected. 
Oh well, guess I just have to continue trying... I think I might even have to sacrifice my weekend in the name of science
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Johnny J. wrote: artificial stupidity??
Microsoft break through in this arena with the invention of "clippy" and the XP search puppy.
Now they are more insidious, for instance visio scroll to random place when you paste. Or the ribbon bars.
Common public will not be comfortable on a PC unless it is stupid as them and there friends.
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