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Alberto Brandolini:
The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

The overflowers have already answered this one : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4571670/why-are-fibonacci-numbers-significant-in-computer-science[^]

~RaGE();

I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.

Way way back when I did my degree, I remember doing an assignment (in FORTRAN) implementing a sorting algorithm based around Fibonacci numbers. From memory, it was a combination of bubble sorting short sequences where the sequence lengths were based on Fibonacci numbers (but it was a long time ago).

I do not think studying mathematician ... (up to you to continue)

~RaGE();

I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.

iSahilSharma wrote:
Does it have the same significance in Computer Programming??

Absolutely. The number of bugs is equal to the F number indexed by the number of features.

Marc

Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly

iSahilSharma wrote:
significance of Fibonacci Numbers in Nature

Zero. It's the other way around; nature existed first and cares not a whit about it; the sequence is merely a description of nature.

iSahilSharma wrote:
significance in Computer Programming

Only as a first-year exercise; possibly with recursion Dead | X|

. My first run-in with Fibonacci was with BASCICplus way back in high school.

However I have seen code with Fibonacci indenting -- it deters deep nesting.
And when I'm estimating the effort required for a task (in TFS) I use Fibonacci numbers.

I've spent - literally - 12 hours restoring my iPhone after it lost the plot and refused to sync with iTunes. iTunes, no matter how much I swore at it, refused to sync my phone. It would simply hang and become unresponsive. Eventually, after endless reboots of both phone and macbook I restored my phone and applications in a sequence that consisted of:

1. connect devices
2. wait for the sync to start
3. wait until it hangs (usually after half a dozen apps were restored)
4. Force quit iTunes, sometimes by rebooting the machine - sometimes with a hard reboot - and a reboot of the iPhone (since the iPhone still thought it was syncing even though it wasn't connected to the Macbook.
5 restart everything. Go back to 1.

I'm on iOS 8.0.2 and the Macbook on Mavericks 10.9.5 - both the latest and greatest. Yet my iPhone, in the last few weeks, has become like the Android device I had but could no longer use because of crashes. The Macbook hangs, iTunes freezes - or just crashes and disappears - and iPhone apps crash several times a day.

I kind of expected this from Android apps - the bar for getting you app in the store is low, and hardware is varied - and the iPhone, until now, has been rock solid. Impressively solid.

So what's happened here? Is this the beginning of what's come through the pipeline since Jobs shuffled off this mortal coil? Is this what happens when you no longer have a single person calling BS and everyone else simply agreeing (if that was even the case). Is Apple now a collections of fiefdoms, Microsoft style, with each group becoming more focussed on the internal struggle than the external customer? Is it now easier for them to say "Yes, it's OK to ship" because the other option is to face backlash from a superior or be mocked by other groups?

I'm sad. Deeply sad at this. Apple software never "Just worked" as the marketing said, but it was always reasonably robust. Microsoft long ago took on the attitude of "We'll never make it perfect. so design it to fail" and we have excellent error reporting, crash dialogs that look for solutions online, and an OS that pro-actively helps you with apps that are unresponsive. My Windows 7 machines are so reliable that a crash (and I can't remember that last OS crash) is a shocking event.

Maybe it's time for Apple to start realising that it's software smells just like everyone else's.

cheers
Chris Maunder

But it is from Apple, doesn't it just work! HAH HAH Hah Hah hah hah hah hic!

Oops that was a response from a decade ago, slipped in from somewhere.

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH

It started with Maps...

I haven't upgraded my Mac to the latest OS just yet - and can't update my aging i-devices.. perhaps we need to adopt the 'wait for someone else to find the bugs' approach I've used for Windows for so long.

One hopes that inside castle Apple, buts are being kicked and will get sorted out - but for now I join you in your sadness.

PooperPig - Coming Soon

Didn't the maps guy get shifted to quality assurance?

No, it started with the death of Steve Jobs. But Maps was the big flag of things to be. Clearly the developers either don't use it themselves or have no life.

Kirk Wood wrote:
the developers ... have no life.

Shirly a tautology

PooperPig - Coming Soon

maybe a bad/damaged cable?

when that happens (once or twice in a couple of years since I've had an ipod/iphone) I usually just reboot/reformat the device and update reload everything from scratch.

I'd rather be phishing!

Chris Maunder wrote:
I'm sad. Deeply sad at this.

Chris Maunder wrote:
Maybe it's time for Apple to start realising that it's software smells just like everyone else's.

The more people realize there's real problems and get vocal about it, the more likely it is that Apple is finally going to get called out on their BS and they'll have to get their act together. And that, IMO, is nothing to be sad about; it's actually a good thing.

My iPod Touch 5th Gen has definitely gotten buggy since I installed iOS 8.0...and then 8.0.2 a couple of days later. Some of it was older Apps which also needed updating but I'm not seeing as it's any better than 7.x.

...I haven't even *tried* connecting to iTunes running on Windows yet...

Anyway, I never was an Apple fanboy...I got it mostly because I have clients who are religious about iGadgets and I need to talk them through things once in a while...it's a very cool gadget for sure, but I'm also just as happy with my Asus Android tablet which I use a lot more.

Coffee time: apple makes pretty good computers, but so does everyone else.

With apple, though, it's really not a case of "you get what you pay for"; you pay well over the odds, but you still only get a pretty good computer.

Of course, with Windows, you get baby blocks and the ribbon, so they're bucking to get rid of their pretty-good-software status.

I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

Having used both Apple machines and PCs (and some of the best PCs out there) I still feel that the Quality of the Apple hardware is far higher than the industry average and I'm willing to pay the premium to have a machine that looks and performs consistently well over it's full lifetime. My PC laptops always seemed to start creaking, or the letters on the keys rubbed off, or the rubber pads underneath cam away or the chassis cracked. Never with an Apple device.

I'm no fanboi, but I like good hardware and Apple definitely has that nailed.

cheers
Chris Maunder

The air bender, otherwise known as the iPhone 6!

I would say that you're not playing fair when it comes to laptops running Windows. I have had two high-end $3,000+ laptops from Dell and both have lasted almost 10 years before I gave them away. No problems on the keyboard or anything else. Apple requires you to pay for high quality hardware, whereas most people tend to buy cheaper Windows based laptops because they don't want to spend as much.

Member 10250219 wrote:
I have had two high-end $3,000+ laptops

As have I. I've also had $1,600 laptops. I then gave up and dropped to $800 laptops. The Macbook Air goes for $1100. So far I'm getting my money's worth.

I've had many, many laptops over the last decade. More than any sane person should have had Smile | :)

cheers
Chris Maunder

Chris Maunder wrote:
Maybe it's time for ~~Apple~~ the users to start realising that it's software smells just like everyone else's.

FTFY.

Actually, as far a I'm concerned, Apples software has never been much better than it is now. Macbooks have always hung, iTunes has always crashed, frozen or disappeared. And their apps are less stable than their Android counterparts in my experience. You're just not getting any error message when they crash, they just silently disappears.

Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

I totally agree. Ever since I upgraded to iOS8 on my 4S I'm swearing it on a daily basis :/ (yeah, I had to be the early iOS8 adopter, before people started writing on the net it's their evil scheme to get us to update Cry | :((

). IMO they should allow downgrade in this case, as the upgrade (iPhone 6), in my country (CRO), is more expensive than the newest entry level model of MacBook Air 13 (unbelievable I know?!)

Chris Maunder wrote:
3. wait until it hangs (usually after half a dozen apps were restored)

did they hired any people from Microsoft?? Big Grin | :-D

I had similar symptoms years ago. Turned out it was the old docking stations had given up and was throwing intermittent faults into the mix. Removed docking station and went for straight cable attachment and bingo, all good again! Maybe the docking station/cable is on its way out.

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