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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: we’re already at work on our next major update
God, No!
Please stop! Please!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Be prepared![^] 
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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So:
0. The ability to make shortcuts, like you can with every messaging app -- not needed; I want an OS and my own apps.
1. That bollocks they were talking about earlier, which is the modern day equivalent of flashing text.
2:Quote: It's unlikely that we'll see full Windows 10 running on phones in the fall however, so don't be holding your breath for that.
Because it's unlikely you'll even see a windows phone!
3:Quote: a feature that Insiders have been asking for ever since OneDrive placeholders got removed from Windows 10
"Insiders" meaning "marketing morons within ms itself".
4. The ability to connect speakers specifically for spyware a feature that no-one in their right mind uses.
5. More useless bloat promised for the future.
6. Tabs everywhere, which developers could already have used, if they wanted to (QED Xplorer2, Q-Dir, etc.)
... And no notification of which genuinely useful functionality they're either going to cut or break, this time around.
I can't wait.
... For Linux to become less command-line orientated.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mmmm ... Cortana enabled devices ... mmmm.
Obligatory XKCD: Listening[^]
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I disabled that wonderful "feature" faster than you can say "siri".
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: Of course, there’s always room for an even better version of Windows — and we’re already at work on our next major update
Well initially that sentance raised hope, buuuuut confirmed they in fact have no intention of making windows better, instead their focus is 100% on further bloating it.
Time ms faced the foregone fact the pc is less and less becoming a consumer platform, even in business. Development is the only area the pc still seriously dominates, yet they are nackering developers for the sake of an unsavable shrinking consumer market share.
Sin tack
the any key okay
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Lopatir wrote: Time ms faced the foregone fact the pc is less and less becoming a consumer platform, even in business
Hence windows 10IoT (which includes the old desktop OS).
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So useful, windows 10 in my toaster.
Either have to wait 10 minutes for the update before can cook the bread,
or if you're too fast pushing wait 10 minutes for it to pop up (not including use of the fire extinguisher at the 3 minute mark).
But seriously that's my point, they can do the windows 10 features on the devices,
but leave the damn pc alone (i.e. in 100% control by the owner) because it's the development platform for the devices' softwares. (and yes, 'softwares' is the correct word to use.)
Sin tack
the any key okay
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And it needs a 32 GB disk to install on.....
And its called embedded? WTF is big enouigh to embed that in!
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Please... don't bash Microsoft so easily...
Of course you need a toaster with a built in SSD...
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Lopatir wrote: their focus is 100% on further bloating it
If it's not broken, it doesn't have enough features! 
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Since I've lost track of who was supposed to post last Friday, or Monday, or yesterday - and clearly they have as well - I'll re-boot it. Good luck chaps and chapesses!
The German is despatched inside, but he doesn't agree(9)
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Dissenter
The in German = DER
Is dispatched = IS SENT
One inside the other = DISSENTER
Slogans aren't solutions.
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A successful reboot - you are up tomorrow!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I'm staying neutral on the question of "das."
Slogans aren't solutions.
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M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Go on - put the boot in!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Don't rock the boat!
Slogans aren't solutions.
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Has anyone heard of tynker? Tynker.com
Is this a good way for kids to start learning programming?
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
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Scratch -- same candy, different wrapper.
I found the UI for Scratch to be nearly unusable (positioning blocks to click into place was such a PITA) and while the concept is interesting, at the end of the day I think it's a horrible way to teach programming.
Since you ask -- teaching programming to kids should be about creative ways to get from point A to point B, rather than using some archaic BASIC-like syntax to glue things together. In other words, teaching programming should not be taught by computers!
Marc
Latest Article - Merkle Trees
Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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Marc Clifton wrote: Since you ask -- teaching programming to kids should be about creative ways to get from point A to point B
That's why I won't teach my kid (if she actually want it) any language, but logical thinking or algorithms in pseudocode.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Another vote for Scratch[^].
I also strongly recommend buying the Makeblock mBot V1.1[^] programmable robot kit for any budding programmer. It uses a Scratch-like programming language and is very rewarding introduction to programming.
MakeBlock @ Amazon.ca[^]
/ravi
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Quote: Kids begin experimenting with visual blocks, then progress to JavaScript and Python
Step one: Fine.
Step 2: ick! Why not VB?
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