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Munchies_Matt wrote: That's it, I finally admitted I am fat.
Considering your old moniker, fat_boy, it can't be that recent.
Opinion: Don't go zero carb, your body will go into starvation mode and start spewing out huge amounts of enzymes to use every gram of the food you eat. Plus it makes you hungrier. That's simply how we are made.
So go low and slow, but don't cut it completely.
To keep the worst parts of losing weight at bay, (hunger, mood swings, and weakness) you need to think of your blood sugar level.
When the blood sugar is high, the surplus is stored away as fat. So, keep your portions smaller and reduce the amount of carbs. Especially the fast carbs that spikes your blood sugar.
When your blood sugar is low, the body doesn't just react by making you hungry, it also creates extra much enzymes to turn the fat and proteins you eat into energy. So you need to snack in between your meals to keep your blood sugar from dropping to much.
Then again, all these diets, low GI, LCHF and whatever is the hype is today, are better designed to keep you from gaining weight. To lose weight you simply need to eat less than you use. There's no way around that.
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Well, you cant go zero carb, plant fiber is a carb, so broccoli has a glycemic index of 40 or so, so in fact what it is a low GI diet, any carb lower than GI 50.
This stops blood sugar spiking up, triggering insulin and fat storage. Without the insulin the body starts to use its fat store instead of triggering hunger (because you dont go into a low blood sugar state).
One benefit of apple cider vinegar is helping to normalise blood sugar, so I am taking that too.
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I take apple cider vinegar for acid reflux - if I lose weight too that's an added bonus.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: One benefit of apple cider vinegar is helping to normalise blood sugar,
Never heard of that, why would it do that?
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Apparently it slows the passage of food out of the stomach, so it doesnt hit the small intestine so fast, and give the sugar spike, so even if you eat carbs, ACV means a lower spike.
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Congrats Matt on making a change! I hope you find the willpower to reach all of your goals. The struggle is real!
Hogan
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Thanks! 
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Munchies_Matt wrote: There isn't any point pretending, I am gross. So, time to do something about it
There's nothing gross about it, and 120 kg is enough to work as a bouncer. I'm underweight, so trying to do your opposite.
Munchies_Matt wrote: Also taking apple cider vinegar, 2 teaspoons before a meal, and at night. Unpasteurised. Apparently it has good bacteria in it.
Yes, because it is fermented. Stuff like sauerkraut (on bread with a wurst, or "hotdog"), kefir (fermented milk, yoghurt like), kombucha (fermented tea), and any pickles contain similar bacteria. If you pasteurize any of those (or heat it in general), then some of the good bacteria in it will die. The sauerkraut has the added benefit of providing lots of fibers.
Munchies_Matt wrote: Diet, basically zero carbs/low GI
So no more take-out Chinese or pizza? I do hope you have at least one cheat-day per month?
Munchies_Matt wrote:
And I am allowing myself red wine, say three glasses or so a night.
Fat: 1 gram = 9 calories
Protein: 1 gram = 4 calories
Carbohydrates: 1 gram = 4 calories
Alcohol: 1 gram = 7 calories
(Source[^])
Best wishes, hope you achieve your goal
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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You forgot the beer.
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A single yeast-culture is a bit different from the probiotics-culture in sauerkraut
Bastard Programmer from Hell
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: 120 kg is enough to work as a bouncer
I am 6 ft 4 (195 cm) and pretty hefty, I have a 120cm chest measurement for example, but also fat. A gut. And it disgusts me. 
Yeah, kimchi too, any fermented stuff (except beer and wine) has good bacteria.
And yeah, no takeaway. I dont like takeaway anyway, I can cook way better at home, better than most restaurants, easilly. Thats part of the reason I got so big, I love food, I love cooking, and I love wine.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: it disgusts me.
Any motivation will do And after a bit time you'll get new rewards to keep you motivated - like having to buy lots new pants 
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Munchies_Matt wrote: I dont like takeaway anyway, I can cook way better at home, better than most restaurants, easilly.
Never trust a skinny cook! But indeed, not very helpfull if you can cook great.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
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First and foremost:
Ask a bunch of nerds on a programming forum!!! That'll go well. 
seriously,
Go see a dietitian or a nutritionist.
spend a few bucks getting a good nutrition plan based on your lifestyle and need and goal.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Maximilien wrote: Go see a dietitian or a nutritionist.
..and pay a lot for the latest official guidelines and nonsense.
You can keep your two liters of water per day
Bastard Programmer from Hell
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Aint asking, just telling.
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You're going to fail in the long term because you've bought into the fitness-industry-myths. No industry works to put itself out of business, if what the fitness industry told you about weight loss worked then they'd be doing just that, so everything they tell you is a lie. Lies you (and from the replies, every other person on this thread) believe, so you are, I'm afraid, doomed to fail.
Think about it...if losing weight or maintaining a healthy weight was such a complex balance of what you eat and chemical interactions then why aren't the intelligent nations healthy and the stupid nations fat? Why do you only get an obesity crisis in countries where manual labour is rare and food is in abundance?
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 Because we like good food, and can afford it. 
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F-ES Sitecore wrote: You're going to fail in the long term because you've bought into the fitness-industry-myths
But I am not doing any 'fitness' so I cant have.
F-ES Sitecore wrote: doomed to fail.
I am dropping half a kilo a day. It works. It works for others, and it will work for me (In fact I have got down to 109 before doing the same diet) so you are wrong.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: But I am not doing any 'fitness' so I cant have.
"Fitness industry" meaning the "health and fitness industry" so not just exercise but diet too.
Munchies_Matt wrote: I am dropping half a kilo a day. It works.
Probably not for the reasons you think though, and I said you'd fail in the long-term. When your weight loss stops, and even returns, you'll turn to the same sources to get a different set of lies and you'll then think "ah, so *this* is the right way to do it", and when that ultimately fails you'll repeat the process. Why do you think so many "new" diets come out and why the advice changes on a weekly basis? To fool you into thinking something new or different has been discovered, to fool you into thinking the fault was the fault of the last process you followed but *this one* will be better. You will continue on that treadmill endlessly, always repeating your mistakes.
1) Eat less
2) Move more
3) Win
"Hey look, I've stopped going to Dominos and Burger King and I've lost some weight...the only possible explanation for that is because I'm eating fewer carbs".
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F-ES Sitecore wrote: Eat less
That is what I am doing. Why so negative?
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Munchies_Matt wrote: Why so negative?
I'm not being negative, I'm being realistic. Your weight is a product of your lifestyle. If you can't maintain the way you eat now forever then only one thing can happen....you'll go back to your old lifestyle, so you'll also go back to your old weight. When the weight gains slow and possible even reverse what are you going to do then? Look for the next fad diet and start the process over.
The proper advice is out there, but you can't force people to follow it, the allure that losing weight and being healthy is some complex mystical science just seems more appealing to a lot of people for some reason.
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Yes, that is why I am changing my lifestyle.
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Eating no carbs? You think you're going to spend the rest of your life eating no carbs? You know that's incredibly unhealthy and unreasonable? Here's a simple idea around a change of lifestyle that is realistic and maintainable....don't drink three glasses of wine a night...400-500 calories a day saving right there.
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When I have got to a good weight I can on occasion eat refined carbs and sugars.
And no it isnt 'incredibly unhealthy and unreasonable'. Mankind didnt have refined carbs or sugars till about 200 years ago.
And no, not drinking red wine is NOT realistic.
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LOL Ok, I'll leave you to your pseudo-science mumbo jumbo. When you finally crack the science make sure you go to Africa to spread the word there, maybe help lift those poor uneducated people from their obesity crisis too.
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