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Tim Carmichael wrote: less chance of 'stripping' the screw and rendering a piece of equipment useless
That's a good point. Interesting too that they are used to limit the user's ability.
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It's all about usage and aesthetics.
Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
The End
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That's why I always use Arthur's Head screws.
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When I was a kid, we undid screws with a "Standard" kitchen butter knife. Try doing that with one of those phillips-type screws.
Even today, I have an amazingly hard time finding a phillips screwdriver in my home, but I know that standard screw will come out whether I have a screwdriver or not.
Brent
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dbrenth wrote: When I was a kid, we undid screws with a "Standard" kitchen butter knife.
I won't turn you in (this time), but I don't believe that is legal.
Nor are you to refer to yourself as Engineer without the proper certification.
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Simple. "Why would any modern product use a standard screw ... etc?"
No modern product would use a standard screw. Any product using a standard screw is unevolved and neanderthalian. Natural selection, in it's most intelligent up- to-date form, socially darwinistic and all/etc, dictates that the evolution of the mind of the user enables this more informed buyer to make the right decision with respect to PURCHASING the engineered product that is more highly evolved.
Economically, supply and demand takes over in this case.
To do the math with respect to the genetic algorithm that generates the extinction of the standard screwdriver will be left to the high-minded developer who has the knowledge to implement it and test in realtime the actual blip on the radar which signals that event has really passed.
In other words, extinction hasn't happened yet but venture capitalists will make sure that it does.
Unless of course what you mean by "modern" is really some clock on some Roman soldiers villa wall.
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Ergo, don't friggin' call it "standard"!
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: Ergo, don't friggin' call it "standard"!
I believe his name is RedDk.
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I agree entirely and at least 95.2% (considering all standard deviation units).
I believe this will fundamentally change AI in ways that haven't been foretold yet.
No one can disagree.
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"disagree"
Ha! No matter when, there'll always be someone who'll disagree with you. Offer Geritol in copius doses and ... Bob's 'yer uncle.
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Slotted: easy to rebuild the slot in case it gets damaged.
Philips: you can apply much more torque in case the srew gets stuck.
The others: f*** them, their sons, their ancestors, their dogs and their teeth. Good as they may be you are certifiably 100% lacking the proper tool to disassemble them.
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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I like the two points and agree with them.
den2k88 wrote: you are certifiably 100% lacking the proper tool to disassemble them
Agree with this too. So annoying. I remember wanting to take a old HDD which had crashed apart and I couldn't find a star driver to fit it anywhere.
Look how many screws there are: quite terrible ==> List of screw drives - Wikipedia[^]
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Look, if you have ever tried a TRUE Robertson ALL the rest are painful.
Note: Not to be confused with the inferior square heads. What is the difference? The taper which effectively locks the driver in to the screw head. When you think about it is so obviously the best way. Slots, Philips, etc. all chatter to some degree - even Allen keys. Even a cheaply made screw is held tightly because of the fundamental design - a taper.
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AAC Tech wrote: if you have ever tried a TRUE Robertson ALL the rest are painful.
Interesting. I looked up robertson screw and stumbled upon the wiki on screws.
wow, there are so many!
List of screw drives - Wikipedia[^]
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As far as I can see, this debate hasn't nailed much down.
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Yeah, I should've probably asked "what is the best mixer" because I've done nothing more than stir things up. 
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IBM used to outlaw Phillips head screws. There could be many reasons, but Phillips head screws are very easy to strip. Also, there are screw starters for slotted screws, but none that I know of for Phillips. Torx is the only kind I really like.
P.S.
I'll have to check out the Robertson. I forgot to mention that it is easy to fashion a square head screw driver with a file and almost any piece of metal.
-- modified 2-Mar-18 9:45am.
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Bruce Patin wrote: it is easy to fashion a square head screw driver with a file and almost any piece of metal.
That's a really great point.
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As long as we've touched the waters of "in a pinch", I needed a small screwdriver to fix my glasses.
Not anything around . . . wait . . . a paper clip and a rock (hammer, etc.). Bang bang. Now we have a micro flat-blade screwdriver!
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W∴ Balboos wrote: a paper clip and a rock (hammer, etc.)Bang bang. Now we have a micro flat-blade screwdriver!
You know what? That's actually one of the best explanations of slotted still being viable.
Very cool.
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The key to Robertson is the taper which square does not have.
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Slot head screws are easier to take out when you don't have your toolbox with you. You can use the dumb little screwdriver head of your swiss army knife. You can use a nail file. You can use a kitchen knife. You can use a dime. Slot head screws are put there for people who don't spend a lot of time taking things apart.
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One more note, based upon your "billions $$$ could be saved".
A few flat blade screw drivers will fit pretty much anything you find.
A little less so with phillps, but somewhat viable.
There are hybrid screws, as well, which take both flat blade and phillips.
For hex and torx? Another one for each and every size?
I think "billions $$$ spent" would be more like it.
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