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UTC (GMT) is good if you are talking about date+time... However if you want to say it will happened on the second day of the third week at eight?
You store 288000 or '08:00'? Or what?
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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A "time" is part of a "date"; one does not store time (because it is not an atomic piece of information), one stores the exact date and time (in GMT).
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Nice theory... You just lost a job opportunity  ...
But really... I have a feature, called, meta-course... In this you only have weeks, days and hours - no date... Now I have to export it to an other system... They do not understand meta-time 
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: Nice theory... You just lost a job opportunity ...
It is not a theory. And bugger; I am somewhat available and looking, and would have liked the offer.
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: But really... I have a feature, called, meta-course... In this you only have weeks, days and hours - no date... Now I have to export it to an other system... They do not understand meta-time
A day without date has no meaning. I don't care about what "they" understand; things are the way they are, regardless of what "they" think they're thinking. "They" did not follow the same education as I did and I am the expert.
Arrogant?
Yes, I am. I know how sh*t works 
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: A day without date has no meaning
There is - and skip the rest if you are only fooling around - the joke on me
Imagine a course in basic algebra... You have all... the resources... the meetings... all... Except starting date... The reason you have no starting date is that this is a repeating course... There is a course every second month...
This is a meta-course... with meetings defined as 1st week 1st day 10:30-12:00... no date!
When you decide that a course will begin on the second veek of October the 2019, the system creates a real-course from the meta by copying all the meetings and changing weeks and days into real dates...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
Imagine a course in basic algebra... You have all... the resources... the meetings... all... Except starting date... The reason you have no starting date is that this is a repeating course... There is a course every second month...
You have a starting date. Find your date after the second course every month.
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: This is a meta-course... with meetings defined as 1st week 1st day 10:30-12:00... no date!
Find the first UTC-date on the first week?
It is of course, nonsense to plan things that way; you'll find that those planned dates have exceptions, due to holidays. That's why I am expensive
Enjoying this, I am 
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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It maybe nonsense, but all course-based teaching systems are working like this - and I'm there for more than 20 years...
An after all these years, all the exceptions are taken into account when turning meta-course to real-course...
The point is after all - there is a creature called time, that stands without date... But - as we all know - not all know about it...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: It maybe nonsense, but all course-based teaching systems are working like this - and I'm there for more than 20 years...
I've been doing this for longer than 20 years, and I'd like to point out that VB6 is still in use. Does that make it a great language to work with?
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: The point is after all - there is a creature called time, that stands without date... But - as we all know - not all know about it...
There is no time without date. Time determines the date in your case 
..and you can calculate it upfront, and give a warning if it is a holiday.
Aw, and before I forget, the price just went up
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: the price just went up
Not a single penny, before you admit I'm right
(the same after...)
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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I wasn't talking about pennies
..and before a job offer occurs, I'd need to visit the development-team before any deal can be made.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: visit the development-team
As long as you pay for it - you are welcome!!!
(However I invite you to dine on our home made as much as it fits you)
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
As long as you pay for it - you are welcome!!!
Whaha, what incentive is there that should draw my attention?
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: (However I invite you to dine on our home made as much as it fits you)
Ditto. If you're ever in the vicinity I'll be making a rabbit like you never had before.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: what incentive is there
Me!
(No offense but I do not eat rabbit (maybe a rabbi, if well Kook-ed), actually do not eat meat at all... but do not tell nobody!)
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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Not enough incentive, sorry.
Do keep struggeling with dates though
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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In theory...
ISO 8601 should handle that -- repeated datetimes IIRC -- but in practice, you're the only one who knows what you mean. And a month later, not even you will.
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Today was rather unusual - I was put into a homicidal mood twice before noon. Arguably, it would be a humane act. I took a walk to a supermarket and bought coffee and potato chips. A lot of coffee and potato chips*. Coffee is the usual way I handle time between applications. Also, during them.
Some determined, without consulting IT at all, that they would create their own numerical employee IDs. OK - we cope. Then, the idiot director of that department realized she wasn't in her own employee database - so she added herself and deliberately reused an existing number. There are all sorts of triggers and such - the horror propagated. The moron had 10,000 possible number to choose from (each year) for a staff of under fifty.**
A bright spot in all of this: they're so lazy about doing their job that it wasn't nearly as bad as it could have been.
* crisps to those of you who are hopelessly bound to a cloudy rainy isle.
** functionally, it's a department with the real company but is considered a separate entity.
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If you plan it right, you can leave enough bugs for the rest of the team to fix, so you are rested and ready to go when the next project comes along. If you don{t have enough time, thgen you need to take a vacation!
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Hah hah hah I laugh, I cry, I just wish I had time between applications.
In 13 years as a contractor with this organisation I have not once had no project under development, usually 2-3 at any one time. And I do not even have to do the support work once it goes to production.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Your fingers have fingertips yet your toes don't have toetips. Yet you can tiptoe bot not tipfinger
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That was just plain excruciating.
As it turns out, even if it was cruciating[^], it would make no difference.
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You'd need to be quite a gymnast to tipfinger, I'd have thought. I'm definitely not going to try it!
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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too many tipples can lead to a tipover
Signature ready for installation. Please Reboot now.
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I agree! Toetally!
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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That was SOOOO funnny....
....20 years ago
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.
Ya can't fix stupid.
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Kevin Marois wrote: That was SOOOO funnny....
....20 years ago
We're not exactly being flooded with posts promoting your cutting edge humor. 
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