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That seems a plausible explanation to me, I know friends who have an apartment and pay "servicekosten" which means "service charge" for electricity, cleaning, elevator etc.
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They should've kept it at one.
The first movie was ok, everything after that was really bad.
That Lambert guy must be the worst actor ever (I know him from Beowulf, which must be the worst non-Uwe Boll movie ever).
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Compared to Steven Seagal he is an accomplished actor 
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Thanks. Let me check it out.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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Where are you staying?
I only ever bought a house once and never rented so I don't have much experience with that.
I was going to say ex probably means excluding VAT, but as 0x01AA pointed out it could mean excluding gas, electricity, etc.
Like Rick I was also going to point you to Funda[^], it's really the #1 housing site in the Netherlands.
€1000,- might be a good price, it might not be, depending on where you want to live.
I know the row houses behind my own cost about €800,- a month, which gets you a yard, spacious living room, three bedrooms, and a very large attic.
However, friends of mine who lived in The Hague paid €1200,- a month for a two bedroom apartment with the same surface as the €800,- house has on a single floor.
And you can do even worse, the Netherlands is expensive to live in (especially Randstad (pretty much Rotterdam, The Hague, Amsterdam, Utrecht and everything in between)) 
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I will probably stay in Den Bosch. I was looking for fully furnished apartments with car park and they were generally around 1200 EUR for 2 bedrooms.
I would prefer staying in the apartment initially. Once we have some idea of culture and they way things operate, will probably move to a row house or even somewhere in country.
Thanks for information.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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lw@zi wrote: I will probably stay in Den Bosch
I may have never actually been there 
lw@zi wrote: Once we have some idea of culture
We ride bikes, probably more than you've ever seen; we don't smoke as much weed as the internet would like you to believe; we don't wear wooden shoes; we have a few old mills, but not that much; we're quite direct and to the point, which the rest of the world considers rude, but we don't mean it like that; our bread is quite "airy", I haven't had it like that anywhere in the world; when you have an appointment at 10:00 be there at 10:00 or a bit earlier, not 10:01 and certainly not 10:02, because that's not what you agreed upon (I know some cultures are quite relaxed in this); overall we're pretty chill and open-minded 
Depending on where you live buying a house can actually be cheaper than renting.
In the big cities (like Rotterdam, Amsterdam, The Hague and Utrecht and probably 's Hertogenbosch/Den Bosch as well) it's pretty much impossible to buy a proper house because of the ridiculous house prices.
You do get a part of your mortgage rent back from the government though (yes, we have this idiotic arrangement that you pay mortgage and then get some of it back, that's what makes houses so expensive in the first place).
Try to avoid being in a car during traffic peak hours in the Randstad as you can easily get stuck for one to two hours twice a day every day.
I'm not sure what rules we have for foreigners living here, but health insurance is required, but pretty cheap (about €70,- to €100,- a month depending on your own risk and additional insurances).
Car insurance is also required, you can get huge fines for not insuring your car.
School is pretty cheap as well, no $100.000,- student loans here (also, a dot is a thousand separator while a comma is a decimal separator and, while we're on the subject, we use dd-MM-yyyy as date format and, of course, we use the metric system, we're also GMT+1 and we have summer time).
Prices here include VAT (unless otherwise stated).
Tips are not included in your bill, 10% is decent, but we're cheap so a little less is also fine.
We do pay quite a lot of tax though.
We're somehow very fond of rules, everything is regulated.
Also, we're Calvinistic, meaning you don't have to brag, show off your money, show off your big ass car, just be like everybody else and don't be extraordinary (it's quite the opposite of America I'm told).
We do have job security, employees can't be laid off as easy as in America (and other parts of the world).
Employees have rights, like the right to at least 20 vacation days a year excluding holidays (but it's usually at least 25), even if you don't want to (it's a rule after all).
Sometimes a retirement plan is mandatory whether you like it or not (it's a rule to protect an employee against himself).
Please mind your step while crossing the bicycle path (of which we have plenty) and enjoy your stay in the Netherlands
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Thanks! That is some good information.
I have worked with Dutch people earlier so I think I have some idea of how things work. I absolutely like the "directness" as I often do not understand hidden meanings (specially when talking to wifey). I like rules too and get annoyed if people don't follow them.
For my residence, I am not looking to buy something yet. I will rather rent a house where I just need to move in with clothes and toothbrush. Funda has a couple of options which I absolutely liked. But nothing is final as of yet so can't book that house.
I will not be going to Randstad so I am probably safe from getting stuck in traffic. Will probably visit that area as a tourist. Plus, I will use public transport for first few months and only get a car if we need it.
Sander Rossel wrote: show off your big ass
What about this? 
I have read a lot and spoke to foreigners who have been there and I am yet to hear a problem I might face.
We have made our mind that we do want to move to Netherlands, now all we are waiting for is a job.
I have started listening to podcasts from Learn Dutch Online with Podcasts - DutchPod101 and hopefully will be able to converse a couple of sentences. Not that I need to but there is no harm in being multilingual. My wife's profession needs her to be at B2 level in Dutch so she will definitely to know way more than me.
Thanks again for help and if we move there, we might catch up a local beer or two.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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A dyslexic walked into a bra ...
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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That's ton funny.
Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
The End
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Are you joking agin?
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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He was soon into his cups.
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Any relation to the agnostic dyslexic insomniac?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Up all night wondering if there was a dog?
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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That's the one. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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We are going to untie
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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"Some goud comes from some bed"
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Hi All,
It's the bit O' Friday I call useless time. If you are not on an urgent job that can make Monday easier, it's worth it. I need to talk to a couple of people of what to do next, I have gone over the circuit diagram quite well had an impromptu meeting with a like minded (want to go home type) over using Python to do avoid using a crammed UI. I would like the member of senior management to finish his meeting so I can sneak out quicker...
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Daily Mail. I mean... Daily Mail.
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Yes. That lorry didn't sink and the UK isn't currently hot. When will people realise that The Daily Mail only prints lies.
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