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I liked WPF when I used to work with it - you can make some really nice looking apps.
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Granted - I saw some very nice looking ones...
But! If you put a DataGrid on a form and bind it to some data, plus add some buttons to each row (template)... It looks awful...
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hehe "it looks aweful" ?
I'm sure you made it so. 
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: plus add some buttons to each row
Ah thinking like a web developer, I cannot remember when I last had buttons on each row. My VM knows precisely what row is selected so all I need is the action directive, also double click is your friend.
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Yes, the default look isn't very nice - it takes a bit of effort to style the app, but webpages are like that as well. You can get WPF themes or third part controls that look nice out of the box.
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Jacquers wrote: you can make some really nice looking apps.
...if you're willing to allocate the resources to do it. Otherwise WPF apps can be made to look every bit as ugly as WinForms-based apps.
If your focus is not on the UI, then WPF adds a lot of cost (in terms of learning overhead) with very little return, IMO.
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Yes, the default look isn't very nice - it takes a bit of effort to style the app, but webpages are like that as well. You can get WPF themes or third part controls that look nice out of the box.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: Why's that WPF, that came to life to replace the ugly WinForms, is so ugly?
Because they decided instead to focus on an inane XML syntax instead that requires, among other things, custom instantiators instead of a simple parser and is almost (if not completely) impossible to express and correctly render in a designer, requiring you to hand code the XML, which when I wrote my articles on MyXaml, everyone screeched about how nobody would want to hand-code XML to design a UI, but when Microsoft put out WPF, that's what everyone was forced to do and even seemed to enjoy doing. Um.. end rant?
Oh, and because Microsoft likes to leave the professional UI design to third parties. 
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Marc Clifton wrote: professional UI design
Don't go that far...
I would like - for start - that vertical alignment in DataGrid of the content would be logical (bottom for all RTL and LTR languages)...
It is not that professional level request...
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I am an old fossil — when I started there was no such thing as a graphics interface. Input was either punched cards, magnetic tape or an IBM Selectric or ASR 33 console. I definitely prefer XAML to drag-and-drop. It is much easier to write parameters to modify a control than to have to open a property window. Extending a WinForms property window? Not trivial. Adding a parameter to an XAML control, by way of contrast, is almost effortless!
I LIKE WPF!! I just wish it had better error detection at coding time.
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Why do you need to write an extension in the first place? . There are third party grid components like xceed that can make life easier...anyway..
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A Visual Studio Extension...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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To do what..
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Metadata management for our development...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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so got custom "metadata" in your code and you need a to develop a gui that will display the "metadata" in a datagrid in visual studio when a dev click a button in vs..
Caveat Emptor.
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modified 14-Oct-18 13:16pm.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: ugly WinForms
I imagine the original design goals to include things like functionality, accessability, discoverabilty and consistency.
Not "look sexy".
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The (wpf) UI designer is definitely horrible.
And wpf does have a steeeep learning curve (trust me, 'been there). The funny thing is, to fully appreciate it, you need to use it (and actually compare it to Winforms) - and while at the beginning, you'll curse a lot (I did  ), when you start to "get" it, you'll use it for any non-trivial UI.
The more you'll delve into it, the more you'll love it (granted, you'll still hate the UI designer ).
Two easy examples: animations, pixel shaders (i.e., Effects). When you actually start understanding how layout works in wpf, you'll be able to create controls that can simply blow your mind (which would be really really hard to implement in Winforms)!
Best,
John
P.S. If (just if ) you want to learn WPF, I recommend "WPF 4.5 Unleashed" - a lot of things don't seem to make any sense in WPF, until explained. Again, been there
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Agreed, on all counts. I've been using WPF for ten years for UI on our products. Once you 'get it', you can do wonderfully useful things in your UI that would be next to impossible without it.
And yes, the WPF designer is worthless. Between constant crashes and its incessant need to insert absolute constants everywhere, it's far easier to hand-code XAML.
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Agree
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I agree that the learning curve is quite steep and there still are things that you cannot do in the designer or XAML (or at least not intuitively). I have, from time to time, built entire controls with children in the code so I don't have XAML documents 1000+ lines long and nested enough to require a lot of horizontal scrolling. However, I still prefer it to WinForms.
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I'm sure it's Very true. Because all the experienced WPF developers say the same.
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Winforms isn't ugly in my opinion. WPF is, though! 
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I concur. I tried, really tried, to use WPF but it produced such an ugly and clunky UI that i implemented what I wanted in WinForms - quickly and easily with very smooth and beautiful results - and a few fancy effects while I was at it - also easily implemented and debugged as necessary.
Bring back Winforms! I was about to say "All is Forgiven!" but there is nothing really to forgive.
I think the "Winforms is Ugly" came from Microsoft Marketing Bozos to enable adoption of the terrible WPF!
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Maybe you should be using this[^] for your UI work.
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I've been looking for something like this!
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