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Get a tab with a "proper" keyboard - using the Win10 soft keyboard for coding is an exercise in frustration. If nothing else, you need the "full layout" for most of the coding symbols, and that takes nearly half the screen in landscape mode. This Type Cover isn't too bad at all: the keys are nice and large, and I'm typing with pretty high accuracy on it already, which is unusual for me.
VS2019 install is done now, and a quick test says "It works" - Hello World ran as a winforms app, but I don't have "serious" source on it yet so I can't test a real world app.
The VS Winforms designer doesn't work too well with touch, either - I had to use the touchpad to drag a button from the toolbox and "hold and drag" didn't work. There may be a setting buried there somewhere but you know what VS settings are like these days ...
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There is just one USB port right (3.0)?
What about if you add a mouse, does that take up the USB port?
Or will a wireless mouse connect directly to the onboard bluetooth? I'm not sure how that works.
I'm sure a bluetooth keyboard will pair right? But can you do both mouse and keyboard on the onboard bluetooth? Thanks
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You could plug in a hub, or use one of those radio keyboard / mice adapters.
Not sure about dual device bluetooth - I've only one BT KB and it's paired with my Fire TV stick - but my general experience with BT is that it's generally flaky at best ...
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OriginalGriff wrote: Not sure about dual device bluetooth - I've only one BT KB and it's paired with my Fire TV stick - but my general experience with BT is that it's generally flaky at best ...
Thanks, that's kind of what I thought.
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You just use a hub and the keyboard ( type cover as they call it ) that comes with it - I hate bluetooth
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Probably not - and it's still an expensive addon. I'd recommend it so far though.
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Beware poor battery life in old tablets...
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
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Mike Mullikin wrote: Beware poor battery life in old tablets...
Good to know. Thanks for giving the alert.
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Make sure it comes with the pen and type cover otherwise you will only have half the package
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Good to know. THanks.
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I love mine , the only trouble I've had is a dead charger ( which they're known for apparently ) in a totally different league to any tablet I've used
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It only looks good on the Surface 
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I agree!
I got a Surface Pro 4 on eBay for about $400 last year. I enjoy the Type Cover, too. The Surface Pen has been surprisingly useful - although it's not as fluid and nice to use as the Apple Pencil on an iPad Pro, the iPad + Pencil combo would've cost 3x what I paid for the Surface, so all things considered, I can't complain.
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It used to be I read a lot about people having all sorts of weird issues with Windows Update. I must've been lucky, because I rarely had any problem with them.
These days however...I can almost guarantee I'll always have at least one or two VMs that will encounter some problem. And not old systems that have been suffering through years of bit rot...right now, I'm looking at Server 2019, which I've installed when it came out, and have practically not used since. Relatively speaking, it's still in a pristine state.
The update history screen says KB4511553 (new from yesterday) failed with 0x8024001e. I figured I'd download the patch as a standalone file, rather than update directly through WU (which has typically been working fine as a workaround for me). That installer insists the update is already there...
And these cumulative updates can't be uninstalled.
I can wait until next month (as mentioned, I hardly use that VM) and hope for the best...but I'm tempted just to restore from my latest backup (nothing new's been added to it since the backup was made) and retry...
TL;DR version: As far as I'm concerned, it's no myth that MS's quality control has gone downhill over the last few years. And I'm being polite about it.
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dandy72 wrote: it's no myth that MS's quality control has gone downhill over the last few years
Hmmm, maybe that has something to do with my current dilemma...VS 2019 completely frozen. I even left it for a half hour to see if it would 'come back'. Nope. For the record, in 20 years, I've never had VS.Net crash or become totally unresponsive.
My cohort has been pushing me to use new widgets which pushes me off of my very favorite and fast IDE of choice, VS 2010. VS 2015 and 2017 are much slower to start. VS 2019 seemed to be a bit better, until now...Time to fire up task manager and kill it. Thankfully, I'm not losing any work. 
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dandy72 wrote: TL;DR version: As far as I'm concerned, it's no myth that MS's quality control has gone downhill over the last few years. And I'm being polite about it.
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Patching, and automated/scheduled patching in particular, is an admission of ineptitude.
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By that measure, Android must be near-perfect, because none of my 4 Android-based tablets ever got an OS or security update. Except for one, which was upgraded from 4.1 to 4.2, I believe.
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That's Russian security. If you don't admit it it doesn't exist.
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One place I contracted to called it "patch doomsday".
I had nothing to offer in argument.
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I totally forgot yesterday was Tuesday so I lifted the lid on my laptop this morning to find it had woke up, updated itself, and then it left itself powered on - with the lid closed. It was very, very hot and so was I!!!
That just infuriates me. Apparently some half-wits there think it's a good idea to leave a laptop powered on with its lid closed. It's a gaming laptop with a real GPU in it so it gets hot. Very hot. I'll stop there. This nonsense makes me irate.
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In no-one's defense...I've never closed the lid of a laptop without first telling it to hibernate or shut down completely. I'm old enough to remember owning a couple of machines with rather bad BIOS-controlled power management (when it was still a new thing and nobody ever got it right), so I never really grew out of the paranoia learned from those lessons. To this day, whenever I see someone just close the lid without doing anything first, I can't help but cringe a little.
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I can understand that point of view. Other than windows updating itself, I never have a problem with this one. I just have to remember that I can not trust Microsoft on Tuesdays.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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Only Tuesdays?  
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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