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I mean, I don't know what he can imagine. I find myself to be a competent but flawed developer. I guess I could have put on an ego for that response though. 
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honey the codewitch wrote: I mean, I don't know what he can imagine.
Looking at what you were told... I suppose not much. Because one doesn't need to be Einstein to see the difference between being able to program and asking a question in an online forum about something you are not that sure and want help or confirmation.
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modified 21-Dec-20 11:16am.
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I agree.
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Ha! I just had something like that happen -- on a different site. A moderator complained that I was causing them to actually have to work! Oh my! Not that! 
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hahaha what do they think moderators are supposed to do?
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Dunno, sit back and bask in our adoration I think.
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honey the codewitch wrote: ...getting garbage on my serial port on my Arduino...a moderator basically told me that's not true...
How are you verifying the noise? What exactly is he claiming is not true?
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He was claiming that my code could not run on 8-bit and 64-bit both. He said my claim "doesn't make sense"
I verified the noise through the built in Arduino IDE serial monitor. I solved it by removing conditional preprocessor defines i made from the ino file which is mysterious that it was causing the problem, but then the Arduino IDE is a godawful piece of trash and it mangles your C++ code "for you" behind your back so who knows?
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honey the codewitch wrote: the Arduino IDE is a godawful piece of trash and it mangles your C++ code "for you" behind your back so who knows?
Have you tried PlatformIO[^]? It allows you to use VScode to write code for Arduino and other embedded platforms.
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Yeah, I'm in the middle of switching to it entirely but I have a client that needs to be able to upload my code and I'm not sure I want to take on helping get them set up, so I still have to rely on Arduino IDE since PlatformIO requires source changes to function.
I greatly prefer real C++ over those INO files.
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You might try avrfreaks but I find they're pretty arrogant at times also.
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I used to be a moderator and administrator for an active site with over 100K members and it was a real PITA. I was constantly inundated with requests from people to be made moderators and eventually I came to the same conclusion Robert Heinlein came to about politicians : anyone who wants to be one (moderator/politician) should not be allowed to be.
That's every bit as true today as it was in his day, if not more so.
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I would get thrown out, and / or swore at, by the guy in the corner office when I would pose the hard questions.
When I suggested using a smaller font instead of redesigning a report due to a new column, he lost it.
He later admitted he didn't realize you could change font sizes on "non-impact" printers.
Or, asking too many questions means "you're not getting it". So I stopped asking.
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It's supposed to rain Christmas eve and I was afraid Santa wouldn't be able to make it but my SO reminded me that Santa has Reindeer.
I haven't had my coffee yet...
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Mike Hankey wrote: Santa has Reindeer.
I'll tell ya' something. If you give it a good think, Santa and his reindeer are out all night landing on rooftops and what-not. Now Santa may make a "pit stop" in some of the homes he invades but what about the reindeer? Do you think they can wait 24 hours or so?
Be glad of the rain to wash away any potential debris left behind . . .
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An America couple was being shown around Moscow one day, when the man felt a drop hit his nose.
“I think it’s raining,” he said to his wife.
“No, that felt more like snow to me,” she replied.
“No, I’m sure it was just rain,” he said.
Well, as these things go, they were about to have a major argument about whether it was raining or snowing.
“Let’s not fight about it!” the man said. “Let’s ask our guide, Rudolph, whether it’s officially raining or snowing.”
As their tour guide approached, the man said, “Tell us, Comrade Rudolph, is it officially raining or snowing?”
“It’s raining, of course,” he replied officiously.
But the woman insisted, “I know that it felt like snow!”
The man quietly replied, “Rudolph, the Red, knows rain, dear!“
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Thanks for my morning chuckle.
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I only want people's opinion on the actual event - which is VP Pence getting his COVID shot. It's preceded by two other shots and that's actually quite helpful.
It just seems to me, based upon the speed and other visual clues, that his shot was just not real and never entered his arm. Very possibly that given his wife, as well.
Mike Pence Gets Covid-19 Vaccine Amid National Immunization Campaign - WSJ[^]
Just looking for other set's of eye's view. I really couldn't care less if he got the shot or not. I mean, for what it's worth, a needle obviously penetrating the skin could be full of saline and no politico's and such ever take a real vaccine for their publicity video. Please don't make it political !
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For me the injection looks real. The skin of the arm just above the fingers of the doctor moves when he presses as there were real pression.
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: It just seems to me, based upon the speed
I would say that's due to the nervous medic (his hand shake a bit)... and the arm will probably later hurt a bit more than it should.
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modified 21-Dec-20 7:34am.
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The first one went in - you can see the skin stretching as the needle is withdrawn.
The second is blocked by the doctor's arm
The third looks real, but it's behind the sticky plaster, so it's difficult to tell. The syringe has a needle attached - you can see it "flash" in the studio lights as he brings it over - and the syringe body appears to stop at the arm where you'd expect, so Occam's Razor says "Genuine" to me.
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I know the syringe had a needle attached and a rather lengthy one at that - but I also noticed the following:
- Both Pences' had the actuall injection sight blocked from view viz-a-viz the first injection where it was plainly visible (CDC guy).
- VP Pence's shot - the needle went in very quickly (compared to the others or any other shot I've seen on TV - with a needle long enough to hit the bone.
- This needle length thing - usually (not always) done at an angle (hence length). I give myself a shot once/week and even with the much shorter needle (Subcutaneous not intramuscular) I do it (and also it is shown in the instructions) to do it at an angle.
This caught my attention, initially, via the endless TV news displays and it just seemed so much quicker than it should be and that needle, going in at that angle and that length. Also, I recently got my (possibly first ever) flu shot and it was nothing like what I saw (shorter needle, at an angle, done with some care). The shot looks all much like the needle was behind the arm and squirted (rather rapidly) into the air.
Looks can be deceiving. Either way.
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If you pay attention to 1:12 to 1:14, there is a bit of shoulter visible between the fingers and the sleeve of the shirt. And for me the skin / muscles react properly when the needle is getting in and when it is getting out.
Note that I don't give a crap if he gets it or not, but in my eyes he is getting it.
From your comment below:
Quote: In these uncertain times (read that insane conspiracy laden times), with so much damage done to the public faith in pretty much everything, these absurd shows - which look foolish to us - may have an impact on some of the "misled" that may save their (and the lives of those near them) lives.
And I believe that even they have noticed it and I don't think they would take the risk to get caught fooling the injection, Although... hey, we are speaking about politicians.
Another thing is what the content is... I don't know and I don't care, but for me is phyically getting the shot.
And I think you are right about the needle and the angle in your answer to OG. That's why I said, he probably has had (sooner or later) more pain than actually needed (if that's bad... that's another story  )
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So I went back over that time frame - it could be that it's going into his arm. What I couldn't notice until this (frame-by-frame) was that his expression didn't change from the actual jab. Nor his wifes. The surgeon general did react. On the other hand, I've had injections from very thin sharp needles that literally slipped in without any sensation at all.
VP's shot, however, was just so very fast. It doesn't look right to me. On the other hand, I did post this to find out what others see looking at the same scene.
And, as I put elsewhere on this thread - I've no care if he gets vaccinated or not. I won't likely be in a room or event with him present. Neither, for that matter, with those who were present at those events.
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I think it's ridiculous that anyone is spending time and money to televise this.
When there was a TP shortage, no one was televising the proper way to use less TP.
People are nuts.
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