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Eddy Vluggen wrote: And hate to say no to potential work.
Isn't there LOTS of potential work in IT?
Eddy Vluggen wrote: ..and it was you at that bloody concert. We met, and never spoke.
What? I haven't been to concerts in a loooong time 
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Sander Rossel wrote: Isn't there LOTS of potential work in IT?
Yes, in IT is. But living in the southern Netherlands, no car nor drivers license. That kinda limits the options a bit.
Sander Rossel wrote: What? I haven't been to concerts in a loooong time
Probably even longer than that. But yes, hoping that this is the last year of the lockdowns.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Even if it wasn't a scam, do you really want to work with people who run their business that way?
Real programmers use butterflies
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They don't wanna run with me; I was my "friendly" self and they decided not to follow up after questions about the SSN and passport. These be harsh times for all, so I not too picky and not making demands about the paycheck.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I hear that. TBH I guess I've been lucky. I've been pretty insulated from economic crunches at least while working in tech. It could just be a matter of the right place and right time, plus the fact that I prefer to contract so I've always been in the "gig economy" in a manner of speaking.
For me though, whether it's tech or something else, what's paramount to me is not even the pay, or the type of work, but whether or not I can be successful at what I am doing, and that depends a lot on the people I work with, work for, or oversee, and the company's environment and culture have everything to do with it. So for me, I pay attention to any red flags that come up that tell me a place might be mismanaged, sketchy, or otherwise probably be something that will set me up for failure, and I run the other way. I'd rather miss a check than bomb out at work, whether it's my fault or not. While it doesn't seem directly related, asking for that information when they don't need it is a huge red flag to me.
YMMV, but that's me.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Sounds like good advice, thanks 
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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One thing about contracting for decades is I've had occasion to see just about every type of work environment there is, and it has helped hone my survival instincts.
Good luck to you!
Real programmers use butterflies
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If the company is coming from an european land, then they should not even ask for the passport, as the standard ID should be more than enough for everything within member lands. I made my first passport when I was already working in my second company in germany, because I had to travel outside europe.
Second for all the firms I have workd (3 different lands) they have needed my health insurance number for the official paperwork, but not just asking me to give them the number, they needed a special document from my insurance, and that after having my signed copy of the contract back at their places.
Without a contract already signed by them giving you the last word on the creation of the laboral relationship they have no right to ask you for such data.
That could be easily used to impersonate you in some government burocracy or be used as identity theft to do harm and let you run with the consequences.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Nelek wrote: That could be easily used to impersonate you in some government burocracy or be used as identity theft to do harm and let you run with the consequences.
That's what my coworker said. I need to buy them a meal for their sage advice
Nelek wrote: my second company in germany, because I had to travel outside europe.
Germany is in Europe?
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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It smells like an identity theft scam to me. Have you checked the email headers, looked up IP addresses etc? There's a lot of traceable stuff in there that many scammers aren't smart enough to conceal.
Cheers,
Peter
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Scammers usually don't build a complete website; so, may just be an actual company with a weird policy.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Scammers usually don't build a complete website;
I would not bet that hard.
They are clean in VirusTotal so you can visit, but...
SCAM ALERT: DO NOT BUY ANYTHING IN THE FOLLOWING LINK, YOU WILL ONLY LOSE YOUR MONEY
https://rapido-electronico.com/[^]
Full web with almost everything what a legit shop would have. And still a scam.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Nelek wrote: I would not bet that hard.
Not betting at all, I been scammed before
Will check with the chamber of commerce, to see if they listed as a company 
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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So if this company uses your SSN as their data base (sic) primary key do you really want to work for them?
It is so obviously a scam it is laughable.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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It does uniquely identify a person, and in school it's usage was allowed in database-design; just not in the real world.
And hope it's a scam, because if it is a real, legit company, they got issue's 
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I read read as read and not read, so I have to re-read read as read so I can read read correctly and it can make sense.
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Ready or not ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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In other news, Reading is not a red-coloured town.
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Sander Rossel wrote: I read read as read and not read
If you had read read as reed, I would have understood. But reading it as is, without changing the word, it does not make much sense.
If you read read, then you imagine "reading". You can hardly confuse that with "reading".
Soo.. I may have to reread this again 
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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In a computer language you can overload functions, well with English we overload words to give them different meanings so that we can extract the maximum results for minimum effort.
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The adjective for metal is metallic, but not so for iron,
which is ironic.
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: but not so for iron
ferric would be the word here, evidently. Interesting. Now I will not be able to stop thinking about this little tid-bit of information all day. 
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But is it a no-iron fabric?
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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No. That wouldn't be ironic.
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