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Mircea Neacsu wrote: Fiber still beats wireless.
Well there's a low bar for you.
But, I'm talking about reliability, not speed. I despise wireless anything with a passion. I've lost count of the number of times people have called me because they keep losing their wireless connection. I've got enough of my own problems in that area, I have no need to try to solve other people's as well.
Use a wire, problem solved - for all practical purposes, forever.
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dandy72 wrote: Use a wire, problem solved
Amen!
I say the same thing except for the day when I was looking at the prospect of digging a trench to put some garden automation in my shed. Then I said "screw it, I'll use wireless" 
Mircea
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As long as there's nothing vital that depends on that wireless connection...
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Mircea Neacsu wrote: I was looking at the prospect of digging a trench to put some garden automation in my shed. Then I said "screw it, I'll use wireless"
Don't complain...
You might have started the trench and then say have to say: "Damn it, I'll have to use wireless"   
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David O'Neil wrote: how a tower can supply a hundred or more houses at that speed and still get good throughput wirelessly?
Naturally the solution for a provider, any provider, is to throttle service when there is a problem at the IP level.
There is also bandwidth saturation, but not clear to me if that applies. Certainly googling for the answer doesn't provide one. Might be that it is high due to the nature of how the actual communication is involved. But would not be surprised if throttling on that is also possible. That is a different kind of throttling than what would be for actual IP traffic.
Unfortunately googling is likely to provide a lot of noise that tends towards nefarious plots (sort of) without realistically providing objective information. So there are complaints about something being slow and thus it must be the providers fault without really eliminating all of the other possible problems. And then a lot of conjecture on top of that.
My only thought is that one can only hope that most of the neighbors don't really do much with their networks. So the kids texting for most of the day will have zero impact versus someone who is running a performance/load testing business out of the house is going to be a problem.
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My cable provider here in BC (Canada) is Shaw, and they provide up to 2GB internet with their new modems - I have the 1.5 GB option because I work from home. Its standard cable to the house and modem, but from there it is all wireless for everything. I can have a Teams video call, as well as large downloads and still have the TV cable box streaming wirelessly. No issues with any of this.
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I'm now doing my first backup with AOMEI
I am backing up these two drives...
- Internal Drive C: 77 GB
- External Drive M: 316 GB
...onto a single External drive.
This thing has been going on for way more than 12 hours now; maybe a full 24 hours by now; I'm not totally sure.
The interface between the external drives and the desktop computer is USB, And I think that's 3.0 on the plugs; They both have the "SS" Logo printed next to them.
AOMEI Continues to report consistent progress, 83% At this present moment (And I started this yesterday)
As best I remember, I killed every other app before I started the backup.
I came across THIS REAL SPEED FAQ from verbatim, which contained this...
From Verbatim's Website... Sustained transfer speeds (real life) for external hard drives are about 85MBps for USB 3.0 and about 22MBps for USB 2.0,
I welcome correction on my arithmetic here.
Even if I'm getting the 22MBps speed, I calculate between 18,000 and 19,000 seconds of time
That gives me something like five or six hours
Clearly, I don't have all the facts here.
I welcome better brains than mine, who might direct me to something smarter.
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I can't tell for sure because I don't use AOMEI but I have experienced a couple of times that sending two different big files to a USB makes it go slower than sending one after another.
If AOMEI is backing up both drives "parallely" that could eventually call the same effect.
At best wait for @OriginalGriff he is the AOMEI power user here.
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If you're only getting 20MB per seconds (that's megabytes, not megabits), that's USB2, not USB3. I've been bitten by this multiple times.
When copying over USB3, I often get well over 100MB per seconds. If something's not configured right, or I have the wrong port, I do see 20MB/s.
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Are you using compression? That slows it down a bit.
Are you backing up the files to a single backup archive file, or are you backing up each file on its own? If you're doing each file on its own, that will take much longer due to the overhead of the file system having to create each file and the drive having to seek all over the place.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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AOMEI seems to have various flavors. "Backupper" seems to be some sort of commercial version. I been confused about various versions of backup utilities. Anyone to clarify?
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote: Are you using compression?
Compression is "Normal"
Richard Also Asked... Are you backing up the files to a single backup archive file, or are you backing up each file on its own?
Single Backup Archive File
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I'd guess that either you have compression set to very high, you are backing up more than you thought, your USB is connecting via USB1, or your destination disks are having problems and you get a lot of retries.
I backup 1.8 TB across two disks, using "Normal" compression, "Intelligent sector" on, and USB 2 (though I've just noticed my drives are USB 3 so I may start plugging them into a different port in future). I generally start them around 18:00, and they turn the computer off some time early in the morning - around 03:00 IIRC - that's about what I'd expect for any backup system. I do close pretty much every app that's running before I start so there aren't too many file changes while the backup is in progress.
Are you going via a hub or plugged directly into a port? Hubs can be iffy sometimes - especially the cheaper ones, and I know how many devices I have plugged in ATM ... 
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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OriginalGriff wrote:
I'd guess that either you have compression set to very high,
Compression is set to normal
OriginalGriff also wrote:
your USB is connecting via USB1
Duh. Never thunk it thru that far
OriginalGriff also wrote:
"...or your destination disks are having problems and you get a lot of retries...."
Anything's possible, But these are disks ordered straight from Western Digital and I believe this is the first or second time I've ever used them
OriginalGriff also wrote:
you are backing up more than you thought,
The final size of the destination file was 313 Gig, I believe
OriginalGriff also wrote:
Are you going via a hub or plugged directly into a port?
No hubs, directly into a port; on the front, yes, I see them now; both are plugged into the front
OriginalGriff also wrote:
I backup 1.8 TB across two disks, ... I generally start them around 18:00, and they turn the computer off ....around 03:00 IIRC
My little 400 Gig task apparently took 26 hours; and the first 18 or 20 of those hours were totally hands-off (I was deliberately not present)
Thanks for the ideas. Keep them coming.
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Finally figured out you are discussing AOMEI in general not a specific product. I checked it out. May consider it.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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Like this from the early days of the internet: Dogs in Elk[^] (which is apparently a real story rather than made up.)
Go. Read.
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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I'm a big fan of Fox in Socks, so I loved the post about "dog in elk..."
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That's hysterical. I own a large greyhound, but fortunately the only 'prey' he's brought into the house was a baby skunk and it was unhurt.
Unfortunately the dog and his sister (probably the instigator of these shenanigans) dropped said baby skunk on an heirloom rug. Cleaning the smell out involved dragging the 8'x12' rug outside, lots of soap and water, and then hanging the now 1000 lb wet rug over the back fence for a month to dry.
Software Zen: delete this;
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I'm just curious.
Also Fallout 4 is a farm game. Prove me wrong.
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
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And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
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Probably, most of us watch where we step.
What have you fallen out of lately?
// TODO: Insert something here Top ten reasons why I'm lazy
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yacCarsten wrote: What have you fallen out of lately?
Definitely AI
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I own the first three Fallout games, but I haven't even installed them yet.
GoG giveaways - I might get to them one day, but ... so many games, so little time ... 
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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OriginalGriff wrote: GoG giveaways - I might get to them one day, but ... so many games, so little time ... 
I can tell the same, but with Epic 
M.D.V. 
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I stopped playing all video games for 1 year.
Needed to detox the brain.
Going on 2 months now, no vid games of any kind.
Best decision I have made in a long time. I highly recommend it.
Been replacing the vid games with watercolor, pen and ink drawings, etc. Reading lots of books that I wish I read a lot sooner. Enjoying the outdoors more.
Just going old school with my hobbies has been so refreshing, really.
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