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Leaving apart the safety/privacy concerns and several legal documents between our company and our customers which, in some cases specifically prevent us to use the cloud for anything, I really don't know how to automate the storage of database data in snapshot files that could be compressed and uploaded into the cloud in an easy way, now, I have the backup done automatically by my NAS, storing the settings for the NAS itself, the application settings and the data of everything (even the databases) into an external HDD to be able to perform a bare metal recovery.
I can see the advantages of having backups decentralized but I can see also the problems related to all this starting with the amount of data to be backed up, which is too big to be possible every single night and don't let me start with incremental backups nor separating that data in smaller zip files, that really don't work...
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I don't say this to be mean but when you say "I really don't know how to..." don't you think that you should learn how? Or if you can't, you pay a consultant to do that for you?
You say you have clients. Those clients depend on you. Don't you think you owe it to the clients to make guarantees about disaster recovery? You say you keep USB disk offsite but you rotate them.
Suppose something happens while you rotate them, (a fire breaks out of there is a big power surge) and everything is gone.
Let me turn the question around: you say there are specific documents prohibiting you from using the cloud. Does that mean your customers have agreed with being only 1 disaster away from losing their data?
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Not everybody wants to work with the cloud, a few of my customers ask to avoid it specifically in their contracts given the confidential nature of their software.
I work for my customers since 1998, they are happy with what they get from me (which is an excellent service as they deserve).
My customers have a weekly copy of their software (or in the worst case at the end of the project, because they decide to go this way). Copy #1.
I have a NAS at the office (multiple disks with RAID 10). Copy #2.
All is inside my laptop (of course fully encrypted). Copy #3.
And of course, the backups are rotating monthly in different places. Copy #4 (which in fact is #4 and #5 as I rotate the building where those backups are placed every month).
When I said I didn't know how to do it, I meant, I don't know how to send multiple GB of data daily to the cloud, just because it would not be enough time to send all that every single night.
I can do incremental backups and... yes... maybe being older gives me the experience of having an incremental backup unusable because one of the tapes decided to fail, making it impossible to recover something. So no, thanks.
If all my customers, my NAS my laptop, and the external location where the rotated HDD lays burns at the same time (or get a super-massive power surge), maybe we would be facing the WWIII and then I would not really be worried for that except to spend time with my wonderful wife (maybe in the cloud already / the real one).
Hope it is clearer now, but in any case, I wanted help to choose a server... which maybe it won't be needed after all as it seems Odoo could work even in my NAS, let's cross fingers and hope this will work.
Thanks for your post Bruno.
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"Tablets were replaced by scrolls . Scrolls were replaced by Books . Now we scroll through through books on tablets ."
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Oh crap. - That's right.
Stupid us all. 
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Background: I've had this old HP LaserJet for years and try to give it a little occasional exercise to stop it seizing up. So yesterday, had a bit of B/W printing to do so though I'd take her for a spin ...
Printer has vanished from the list. OK, probably to do with the Win 11 upgrade. So I use the Windows Add Printer dialogue and it installs. Yay, this is easy.
I try printing to it. Quick as a flash, nothing happens. Document is in the print queue with the helpful message "There was an error." But it does let me cancel it and try again, with similar results.
Okay, I'll uninstall it and try again. After what seemed like successful removal, it's still there.
So, I run the troubleshooter which, surprise surprise, says that maybe making it the default printer will work. It doesn't. But we have now moved on - it can no longer use this as the excuse. This time it gives me a link to a HP page to download the correct driver. The link is to a page that doesn't exits.
Okay, now the gloves are off. HP Print & Scan Doctor which of course won't run until I update it. But then - KAPOW! It tells me that the standard Windows drivers might be inadequate and I should install the full set of drivers "Downloadable here." This link works, the file downloads but crashes out every time I try to run it.
I find another link to download all the drivers singly. I try it and this time it tells me not to use these but to use the Windows version that I started with.
At this point, I accept defeat and use the other printer. But now is where it gets interesting ...
I return home at about midnight and wake up the PC. Before I do anything else, there's a flashing of lights and a whirring sound and a single page pops out of the LaserJet. This was a document sent to the printer in May 2021!
It now becomes clear to me that the name "LaserJet" is in fact derived from "Lazarus" and I appear to have gained the ability to raise the dead.
Printer now seems to work perfectly.
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Quote: Printer now seems to work perfectly.
Except the current document printout will be available in 2025.
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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"LaserJet, come forth". 
At least you have yours working. That's good.
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ok, that's funny. Come over and clean my laptop screen!
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Rich Leyshon wrote: I appear to have gained the ability to raise the dead.
I would recommend that you stay away from cemeteries. 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Rich Leyshon wrote: I've had this old HP LaserJet for years and try to give it a little occasional exercise to stop it seizing up.
I've been wondering about that.
When my previous employer shut down (as part of an acquisition), nobody wanted the big LaserJet printer it had owned for many years - I don't know how long exactly. I think the company was roughly 6 years old at the time, so assuming it was bought brand new when the company was founded, it was 6 years old when I brought it home.
That was in 2006. Which means it's now 23 years old.
I clearly remember using it with XP--in fact I still have the driver installer for XP in my software archive. I'm still using it today with Windows 10, and a lot of Linux distros pick it up automatically. These days if I power it up twice every 3 months, it had a busy quarter - I really hardly ever print. But, I'll still say it has served me well, with no indication after all this time it's about to run into mechanical failures (fingers crossed).
It's a LaserJet 4350, with - I think - all accessories you could get for it at the time. There's two 500-sheet trays, a duplexer, I believe is what it's called (which lets you print on both sides of a sheet), and even a stapler (assuming you're not trying to staple more than 5-6 pages together). It's big and heavy, so I think that's why nobody wanted it.
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dandy72 wrote: It's big and heavy, so I think that's why nobody wanted it.
It's probably also an electricity guzzler, at least compared to modern laser printers.
OTOH, if you turn it on only a couple of times a quarter - who cares?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Exactly. It goes so long between print jobs, I wouldn't even rely on its sleep mode.
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I expect in this case the printer was one from the period of time when HP was making money from selling printers and not the mayhem now.
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took the words right out of my mouth, though the driver nonsense is pretty much HP.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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from as article titled "These 10 scientists are on the cusp of changing the world" link below the quote below made me laugh out loud .
MSN[^]
Quote: ... a multidisciplinary team of biologists, computer scientists, mathematicians, and more in analyzing more than 49,000 eggs from about 1,400 bird species. ... The team translated the shapes of the eggs into mathematical models and incorporated data such as habitat, diet, and how many eggs each species laid at a time. They found that one of the best predictors of egg shape was flight ability. “Birds that are strong fliers—birds that tend to fly a lot or migrate long distances—tend to lay eggs that are more elliptical, or more pointy,” says Stoddard. The team published its findings in the journal Science in 2017.
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Wow, important stuff?
As the aircraft designer said, "Simplicate and add lightness".
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maybe they will figure out how to add lightness to aircraft utilizing bird egg shell technology . seems logical . birds fly also .
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BernardIE5317 wrote: birds fly also .
So do insults. Perhaps we should start swearing at the plane, instead of the airline. 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: start swearing at the plane
Wait you mean you don't, every time I squeeze into an economy seat the plane get a right roasting!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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BernardIE5317 wrote: add lightness to aircraft utilizing bird egg shell technology . seems logical . birds fly also
Eggs, not so much.
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Eggs fly very nicely, but they need to work on their landing skills.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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