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Still though, that's cool.
Jeremy Falcon
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Definitely no people.
Media attention would be far greater if that happened.
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Well, I mean, bleu cheese isn't exactly hard.
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A hard landing is a crash. A soft landing is landing as intended.
You almost never want a hard landing.
Cheers,
Vikram.
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I'll hav3e to agree with those who point out that there were noone, not even robots, walking out of the space craft on the lunar surface. So there is no reason to think that the US space hegemony will ever be threatened.
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And I'll have to agree with you!
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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The robots exited out of sight of the cameras. Duh?
The moon is close enough for simple remote control rovers.
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I wanted to mount my shiny new TV with a swing arm directly into my drywall. I just like the flexibility a swingarm would give me, but there are some issues that make it difficult to mount the swingarm directly into the studs in my wall. So the question became: is this even feasible with drywall anchors alone?
So I started watching this video where he tested out some different drywall anchors (summation of the results are roughly 16 min into the video):
Which Drywall Anchor is Best? Let's find out! - YouTube[^]
I was trying out some physics calculations here and wanted a second opinion to see if I was completely off.
The TV itself weighs about 25 Kg and the swingarm is about 5 Kg alone. When fully extended, the TV extends about 60 cm from the wall. The mount itself (that I had lying around) is secured to the wall with three screws. One 15 cm above the arm, one 5 cm above the arm, and one 5 cm below the arm.
So I'm thinking: I have three forces working on the drywall: F_y , F_x and momentum M_0.
F_y has to withstand at least 30 Kg, which looks good, as one of the three screws, with a proper anchor, should be able to handle this weight alone.
The momentum the TV and mount generate, a little simplified: 30 Kg * 9,81 m/s^2 * 0.6 m = 177 N * m
The outward force at each of the wall screws (I chose it equally, which is a bit simplified, I guess) is (0,15m + 0,05m + 0,05m) * 3 * F_x = 177 Nm => 708 N/3 = 72 Kg/3 => F_x = 25 Kg each?
Yes, I know that I can put up a new drywall that can handle more loads, or I can place a stud or something equivalent to reinforce the TV mount. I just wanted to check if this makes sense from a theoretical viewpoint. There are, of course, some safety margins to consider (30% or so?), but I'll have to deal with that later I guess.
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Do not mount the unit into Drywall using any kind of anchor.
The best way to do it is to cut out a portion of the drywall where you will be mounting the unit and installing board(s) between existing studs, then reinstalling the drywall and mudding it up.
If you cut the drywall carefully you can put the same piece back and just tape and mud around it.
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That is probably what I'll end up doing anyway, but I'm still curious if it will hold. 
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It may hold while against the wall but as soon as you extend it, it will end up on the floor!
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Ditto on last 2 comments from Mike. The weight (torque will be magnified by the length of the arm (moment arm) so dry wall just does not cut it.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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Mike's right: the stress when it's extended isn't applied linearly on all the screws: the top pair will have more weight on them as the TV tries to pivot around the whole plate, pushing the lower screws inward, towards the wall.
And that's before any kids / grandkids / drunks lean or swing on the TV!
Use a solid foundation, and you'll be fine.
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Will it hold? Sure, but the question is for how long.
Over time, the drywall will crack internally and lose strength as the TV is moved around, eventually getting closer and closer to just the backing paper holding the TV up.
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"installing board(s) between existing studs"
An excellent suggestion.
Swing arm suggests someone wants to move it and even if drywall might hold a fixed mount I can't see it staying up over time when moving it.
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please do.
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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You mean moment, not momentum, I believe.
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I wouldn't do it. Over time those stupid drywall anchors work their way out, unless you use the butterfly type.
What I would do is install a couple of cross braces between the studs and mount the TV to that using lag bolts.
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I've even had butterfly anchors come out, along with a chunk of the drywall.
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Yeah, tbh i don't really trust them either. Drywall isn't meant to bear any kind of load.
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You could do all sorts of theoretical calculations but none of them would take into account the complex loads applied by kids (or grandkids) swinging on the end of the arm or by the cleaner doing whatever cleaners do (not currently understood by humans).
Phil
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kids (or grandkids) swinging on the end of the arm
You'd hope if said kids are tall enough to reach the arm, they'd be smart enough not to do that.
But, never underestimate what children's stupidity lack of fear will make them do.
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Even 1-year olds are tall enough when they have climbed on the dog and a chair!
Phil
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Don't do drywall. It's glorified cardboard.
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