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Christian Graus wrote: there's no law against using more than one, it's not like marriage.
haha
Ok Thanks for the advice, i will begin to learn C# from today onwards  , i will also continue with C++.
Thanks for the advice
Benjamin Dodd
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I am assuming that you will be moving to the .Net platform sooner or latter. If thats the case then go for the language you feel good and strong about personally. Under the .Net platform, all languages have exactly equal capabilities (at least according to some Microsoft learning aids) and you can do the same task in almost the same number of lines and using the exact same classes and data types. Knowing more languages wont do you harm though, given that due to cross language programming now taking place, you might have to use and debug components written in another language.
However C# is more universally used: by Microsoft and major players.
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What version of VB is everyone using, i use VB 6. What are peoples views on this?
Benjamin Dodd
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Benjamin Dodd wrote: i use VB 6
It's pretty much dead language, now days.
Benjamin Dodd wrote: What version of VB
VB.NET if there is really ever a need for it...
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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ok, and nice quote. I use VB 6 because i am a beginner and find it easy, once i get better at coding i will use C++ or soming along those lines. What language are you best with?
Benjamin Dodd
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Benjamin Dodd wrote: I use VB 6 because i am a beginner and find it easy
Just go to VB.NET. VB6 is no longer supported.
Benjamin Dodd wrote: What language are you best with?
C++/C#/Java/PHP/Perl/Fortran/VB.NET/Assembly (80x86, 6502), just to name a few 
Take note of my other sig at the bottom 
"Any sort of work in VB6 is bound to provide several WTF moments." - Christian Graus
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haha  i jus bought the VB 6 book, and that comment is not funny haha, you are a Genius hehe, you know lots of languages, im only 16, what do u suggest i use to program, i used C++ some time ago i have the books for that. Just found it a bit ahrd after a while.
Any suggestions
Benjamin Dodd
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Benjamin Dodd wrote: you know lots of languages
Awww, shucks  I started programming when I was 9 and that was almost 26 years ago.
Since you just got a VB6 book, carry on. I'd get the fundamentals down, and move on to C++/C#.
Benjamin Dodd wrote: ust found it a bit ahrd after a while
What is so hard about C++? Object Oriented Programming? MFC?
"The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese" - anonymous, found in Uncle John's Bathroom Reader
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ok, wow you started at 9, thats real early i started at 15, and i was doind ok with c++ just wasn`t understanding the codes very well and when i got to the secong chapter in my book, variables and strings i was confused however another read i may understand it more, because at this time i was taking my GCSEs so it wernt the best time to fill my head with new knoledge, i will read 'C++ in easy steps' a bit tomorro, maybe i will get a better understanding of it. I will contiue with VB 6 however because i have the book hehe. What was the first language u got familier with?
Benjamin Dodd
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Here's the chronological order I went with:
First actual language I became familiar with was the built in Basic that came with the Commodore 64/128 systems.
From there, I went on to learning assembly language for the 6502 chip which the C64/128 ran on.
After that, I upgraded to my first Intel based machine in 1991, a 386 running at 25mhz, and it was a significant leap from the C64/128.
Did a quick stint with Quick Basic 4.5/VB 1.0 (never really looked at VB again until VB.NET showed up), with some Microsoft Pascal.
Started at the local community college in 1992, learning Ada (at the time concurrently C++).
Java came around a while later, along with PHP.
Started with C# around 2002, or so, and that has been pretty much the language of choice, unless clients dictate otherwise.
"The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese" - anonymous, found in Uncle John's Bathroom Reader
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ok wow thats alot, i have used BASIC before when i installed it in school haha, it was quite good however went swiftly on to VB 2005 express edition then i couldnt get the book for that version, so i switched to VB 6, and before BASIC me and a friends used to use C++ in school to make .exe files and just play around with C++ really, thanks for your help i will contiuse with VB 6 however at the same time i shall learn C++.
I hope i have more luck with C++ this time around haha
i'm sure doing a level math will help me with this
I want to learn at least 5 programming languages before i die hehe
This is including JAVA whith at the moment i know nothing about.
Benjamin Dodd
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Benjamin Dodd wrote: I want to learn at least 5 programming languages before i die
Once you've got a few languages under your belt, then learning more is actually pretty easy once the the fundamentals are down pat
"The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese" - anonymous, found in Uncle John's Bathroom Reader
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Benjamin Dodd wrote: I want to learn at least 5 programming languages before i die
Given the way technology moves on you are most likely to achieve that before leaving university.
Apparently the upcoming languages of choice are functional languages like ML[^], which has actually been around since the 1970s. Microsoft Research are doing a lot of work with functional languages and they could becoming mainstream sometime in the next few years.
Upcoming events:
* Glasgow: Mock Objects, SQL Server CLR Integration, Reporting Services, db4o, Dependency Injection with Spring ...
"I wouldn't say boo to a goose. I'm not a coward, I just realise that it would be largely pointless."
My website
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Hi, don't waste your time on an old language such as VB6.
If you study the ancient books you seem to own, you will be old before you get
to the current stuff, and it will not increase your market value.
Don't let the accidental book take the decisions for you...
I would go for C#: modern language, fully object oriented, more powerful than
VB.NET, less hassle than managed C++, offers all the powers .NET provides.
So I suggest you buy one introductory book on C# and study it thoroughly,
download Visual Studio C# Express Edition (it is free), and read some
CodeProject articles.
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Hi, thanks for your comment, my books are quite old hehe because i buy them second-hand cheep. Thanks, i will download C# tomorro and get a book from the libary to introduce me to it.
Thanks for your help
Benjamin Dodd
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Luc Pattyn wrote: don't waste your time on an old language such as VB6
Been trying to tell him
"The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese" - anonymous, found in Uncle John's Bathroom Reader
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haha thanks everyone, you are great helps, so i will start with C# tomorro
Benjamin Dodd
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What type of applications can be made in C# i have heard about this language, it is really advanced, does anyone have experience with this language??
Benjamin Dodd
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Hi,
The number of messages in the C# forum far exceeds the number in the VB forum.
That may indicate there are more people interested, more application possible,
but also more questions, or maybe more problems.
I suggest you read some of the messages and make up your own mind on this.
I for one have been using just C# (and plain C for native stuff) since I started
using .NET, although I have been using VB long long ago.
And yes I do read messages in other forums too, most problems are not really
language specific anyway.
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ok thank you, ill go in the other forum later, i came in this one to ask about VB 6.
Thanks
Benjamin Dodd
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Benjamin Dodd wrote: What type of applications can be made in C# i have heard about this language
Just about any as in any other language.
Benjamin Dodd wrote: it is really advanced
Nahhh, it's pretty straightforward. Advanced for a beginner like yourself, but the marketable skill set you get from it is far better than VB6 
"The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese" - anonymous, found in Uncle John's Bathroom Reader
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Benjamin Dodd wrote: What type of applications can be made in C# i have heard about this language, it is really advanced, does anyone have experience with this language??
Pretty much any type of application. Web applications, desktop applications, mobile applications (with the compact .NET Framework), games (you need also the XNA framework for that), window services, web services and a whole bunch of other things.
There are a lot of people with experience in C#, there is a C# forum here at CP and a lot of articles are written for C#.
Upcoming events:
* Glasgow: Mock Objects, SQL Server CLR Integration, Reporting Services, db4o, Dependency Injection with Spring ...
"I wouldn't say boo to a goose. I'm not a coward, I just realise that it would be largely pointless."
My website
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Paul Conrad wrote: trying
just a little bit of psychology is all that was required
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Paul Conrad wrote: I started programming when I was 9
Hey! Me too!!!
Upcoming events:
* Glasgow: Mock Objects, SQL Server CLR Integration, Reporting Services, db4o, Dependency Injection with Spring ...
"I wouldn't say boo to a goose. I'm not a coward, I just realise that it would be largely pointless."
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