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Kent Sharkey wrote: Or... you know... you could just pay attention to your surroundings?
Exactly.
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On Monday, Microsoft announced that it had taken control of 50 domains associated with a hackers believed to be operating out of North Korea. I guess this means I have to get a new email provider?
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"The precedent has been set, your Honor. US corporations now have the right to seize any domain that they believe will help their interests, no matter who owns the domain, and under which international jurisdiction the owner falls!"
I think we can assume that the owner of hornmail.com broke no North Korean laws by owning the domain, so this is certainly a case of unjustifiable interference on foreign soil.
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So following the law and going to court and presenting your case of unlawful and illegal behavior by a third party and having an independent court agree with you is somehow "unjustifiable interference on foreign soil"? Their may have been no North Korean laws broken (which I doubt is the case and also which I doubt you know anything about NK laws), but there certainly were US Laws broken.
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Now, I know that plankies have a hard time understanding things like this, but I don't live in the US, so I don't GAF about US laws.
Just because something is law in the US (or China, or Iran, or North Korea, or any other country) does not mean that everyone in every country has to follow it.
The US courts can do what they like to support US greed, but they should not be allowed to affect lawful actions in other countries.
So yes, allowing a US corporation to steal a lawfully registered domain name is unjustifiable interference on foreign soil.
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Their actions weren't performed in NK, they were performed in the US, so by US law their actions are governed. Hence by US law they can be punished by US law and have whatever "property" is held by US corporations seized (the domains were registered by US corps). This is also supported by international law. So it is justified and right and lawful to seize criminal property and interfere with criminal activities.
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You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Then charges should be taken out against them for any crimes they actually committed, and, at worst, the domain names should be blocked or confiscated.
I cannot see any legal grounds for taking legally paid-for domain registrations away from a foreign national and giving them to US corporations.
If you believe that to be ethical or a valid judicial dispensation, you are mistaken.
What it is is part of the slippery slope of handing the dispensing of justice over to US corporations -- essentially putting them above the law by allowing them to profit from crimes.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: What it is is part of the slippery slope of handing the dispensing of justice over to US corporations -- essentially putting them above the law by allowing them to profit from crimes.
I agree with that. Maybe is should have been seized by the US Gov't, but something tells me you wouldn't be happy with that either.
Mark_Wallace wrote: Then charges should be taken out against them for any crimes they actually committed, and, at worst, the domain names should be blocked or confiscated.
But that is exactly what was done. Only it was civil charges and a civil confiscation under the law.
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You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: Maybe is should have been seized by the US Gov't, but something tells me you wouldn't be happy with that either.
That would have been fine; it's the courts' job to afford such protection.
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A persistent question over the past several years is which managed service providers were affected by APT10, the tenacious Chinese hacking group that has plundered organizations for three years. They do say that cloud computing is convenient for everyone
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The NCSC writes: "MSPs who are unwilling to work closely with customers or unwilling to share information with you should be treated with extreme caution."
Markie writes: "MSPs who are unwilling to work closely with customers or unwilling to share information with you should be treated with extreme caution avoided like the plague."
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Quote: Each chip was then fully programmed to perform a range of demonstrations which utilize the entanglement. The flagship demonstration was a two-chip teleportation experiment, whereby the individual quantum state of a particle is transmitted across the two chips after a quantum measurement is performed. This measurement utilizes the strange behavior of quantum physics, which simultaneously collapses the entanglement link and transfers the particle state to another particle already on the receiver chip.
Information teleported between two computer chips for the first time[^]
Wifi is on its way out!
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Beam me up Scotty
Did a little mechanic work today.
Put a rear end in a recliner!
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Quote: The team reported a teleportation success rate of 91 percent
Me? I'll wait a bit longer! 
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
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 2 of me? Bad, very, very bad!
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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The original was much better, Jeff Goldblum is a terrible actor! IMHO
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I'm trying to conceptualise how to handle the volatility on either end of this. I suppose the simple answer is that these chips would just be dedicated hardware that can be treated as an IO device by the rest of the system.
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After further analysis it was determined that the information was actually a spam post where the first computer was phishing for access passwords from the second computer... 
I, for one, like Roman Numerals.
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So the facts that they've been doing this in China for over two years, and that most of the background science for the experiment was given to them by Chinese scientists, are to be written out of history?
OK, got it.
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Show me the evidence...
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You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Don't troll in CP.
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huh?
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You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Demanding "evidence" in newsgroups, etc, is a sure sign of trolling.
Nobody with a search engine needs to be "shown evidence".
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