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Here's a really wild thought. We could call this type of thing, an article or a tip/trick.
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It is a wild and i think it can be a never ending tip7trick article as well but i will have the headstart and will see what it goes from there.
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Excellent. I look forward to reading it.
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I have two articles:
Total Downloads = 1821 + 155
Total Book Marks = 8+8
Total Votes(all 5*) = 5 + 2
And my Author reputation is 1797... Something seriously wrong.
May be time to redefine all classical math operations; like 1+1 = -12 ; 1-1 = -24; 1/1 = 32; 1x1 = undefined
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Read the post at the top of this page.
And your math is wrong: 1+1=3, as any book about making children will prove.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
modified 8-Jan-13 3:37am.
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It was a proposal(the math ops), thanks for the feedback and correcting them. Way to go!
Thanks,
Kuthuparakkal
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The maths is designed to recognise the reputation of the "bigger hitters" of Code Project. This means that a +5 from someone like myself will count more for your article than an account that was created 10 minutes ago. One of the reasons for this is so that people get rewarded more, the more they contribute - and your article/tip/whatever vote gets a heavier weight vote which people should trust more.
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Whatever may be its pure sense that it should be more than 1976 + 7votes + 16 bookmarks. it cannot be 1797
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Downvotes lower the total as they add negative values.
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I have only 5 starred votes, zero downvotes: I think am painting an100x100x100 meter ice cube
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Kuthuparakkal wrote: I have only 5 starred votes
No you don't. I went and looked at your articles - you have votes lower than 5 in both of them.
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Average article rating: 5.00
Database
SQL Server
Dynamic Excel file loading with SSIS
Posted: 19 Apr 2012 Updated: 23 Apr 2012 Views: 23,540 Rating: 5.00/5 Votes: 5 Popularity: 3.49
Licence: The Code Project Open License (CPOL) Bookmarked: 8 Downloaded: 1,821
SSIS and Excel Automation
Hardware & System
WMI
Directory Monitor Service controls SSIS Package Execution
Posted: 2 Aug 2012 Updated: 2 Aug 2012 Views: 4,848 Rating: 5.00/5 Votes: 2 Popularity: 1.51
Licence: The Code Project Open License (CPOL) Bookmarked: 8 Downloaded: 155
WMI based DirectoryMonitor triggers SSIS Package execution.
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Now go into your articles and hover over the stars rating box - take a look at what you see in there. That's what I did, and I saw that there were downvotes on your articles (take a look at the explanation in there about the removal of statistical outliers).
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I dont see any lower rating there... Are we comparing apple to platypus ?
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This is bizarre, and I think there's been a problem here on CP. I raised a bug report because Sacha's latest article was showing a 2 vote without a comment; now your article was also showing me a 2 vote. Today, however, the 2 votes are gone. What does your author reputation show now?
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Writer : 1,804 : Author
Scholar : 10,318 : Authority
Thank you for understanding the problem.
Sincerely,
Kuthuparakkal
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Average tips rating: 5.00
Database
SQL Server
Manage SQL Server Agent Jobs using C# [Tip/Trick]
Posted: 17 Apr 2012 Updated: 18 Apr 2012 Rating: 5.00/5 Votes: 2 Popularity: 1.51
Licence: The Code Project Open License (CPOL) Bookmarked: 9 Downloaded: 0
C# and SQL Server Agent Jobs
Cryptography & Security
Cryptography
Self Driven Cryptographic Operations [Tip/Trick]
Posted: 22 Apr 2012 Updated: 22 Apr 2012 Rating: 5.00/5 Votes: 1 Popularity: 0.00
Licence: The Code Project Open License (CPOL) Bookmarked: 3 Downloaded: 0
Input drives action to perform : Encryption or Decryption - Implementation of user defined encryption signature with standard cryptographic algorithms
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Hello,
Please delete my account.
Thanks in advance.
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A serious suggestion / idea / query for the boys.
If, as it seems, voting is dead in the water - deader than a wolf on JSOP's lawn, deader then Jimmy Savile's legacy - then what of the future?
I liked voting, it's a nice way of showing that you've read something and want to reward [or punish] the author of said piece. I am not a fan of whole-scale unibombing or happy pill high fiving anyone who replies to you. So there must be a compromise somewhere...
[Vilmos does the whole 'woo woo' effect complete with wavy hands]
... imagine a place where opinion can be given, but not a bland +/- points but as moderation, giving a quick one word comment to indicate pleasure or disgust.
My idea is to give members a choice of comment words - maybe five or ten each of positive, neutral and negative. Voting would be two steps, click on the group - positive - then on the comment word - funny. That then forces users to think a bit more about their moderations.
The second part is to restrict the number of votes a user can make in a day - maybe starting at 1 a day for newbies increasing to a maximum of 20 for big time forumators. Not a lot of votes can be cast so those that are made will really mater.
As I say, if voting is totally Jim Morrison then so be it, but if there's a chance of a new form, then how about it?
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Voting's not dead. He's just having a nap after a long squawk.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Bob Dole The internet is a great way to get on the net.
2.0.82.7292 SP6a
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He's pining for the fjords
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I wouldn't call it that. A damned good thrashing, that's what he got!
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Hi Nagy,
I think we have four quite different "issues of structure" re CP voting in different facilities within the overall site: Article, and Tip/Trick,voting; Lounge voting; Q&A voting; and, voting in specific technical fora, like C#. I consider the current expanded "Report flag" facility adequate, now, for all cases, in all these areas.
Here's my own personal preferences for what they're worth: (I'll spare you what I consider my rationale for these preferences: imho, my various "rationales" on these issues have already been posted, here on this forum, thoroughly, over the last eighteen-months.
0. Article and Tip/Trick rating: this seems fine to me the way it is. An up-or-down vote on comments on Articles and Tip/Tricks, worth one, or minus-one point, would, imho, be a good feature.
1. Lounge: I favor a simple up or down vote for OP's and responses worth one, or minus-one, point, per vote. I have been much more satisfied with the Lounge "experience," recently, while voting has been "off."
2. Q&A: first CP needs to recognize there is a problem there that has resulted in several contributors, like our own, highly esteemed, mentor, and guiding-light of CP, Pete O'Hanlon, withdrawing from being active in Q&A.
For a few, answering tons of Lounge questions with half-thought through, and obfuscating, digressive, answers, has become, obviously, an obsession. Compared to StackOverFlow, the general quality of CP Q&A, imho, is a joke. That is tragic. There's no incentive, on Q&A, to give a well-thought out, robust, answers, with tested code, careful citations, etc., that could, over time, contribute to the total quality of CP.
I no longer feel, as I once did, that having a Platinum rep as Authority, based on Q&A activity, has any real value, and is something I should be proud of: that's a shame.
imho Q&A now demonstrates a type of group-dynamics (I speak here as someone who once was a highly trained social-scientist, whose area of research was social dynamics of groups, both work-groups, and "affinal" groups) associated with "cults."
3. Specific technical forums, like C#: I am in favor of voting the old way. The issues for such forums are, I think, the appearance of questions there that really should be posted in Q&A, often questions that are asked by complete newcomers without a clue, technically, and/or the usual help-with-homework, and "gimmez" set. In this area I would favor a rated voting system for top-level responses to the OP, but a +1 or -1 vote for comments on top-level posts.
There, that's my thunking, although I doubt there's much value in expressing it here.
On the "big picture" level, I see CP's current structural problems around voting (far transcended by the continuing great value of the site-as-a-whole), as reflecting a problem of CP's size and volume reaching such an order of magnitude that its early structure (more centralized, say, in comparison to StackOverFlow).
And I continue to be an "ardent fan" of CP, which has given me, I think, so much more than I have ever given to it.
cheers, Bill
"So long as … social condemnation, which, in the face of civilization, artificially creates hells on earth, and complicates divine destiny, with human fatality … so long as three problems of the age: degradation of man by poverty; ruin of women by starvation; dwarfing of childhood by physical and spiritual night: are not solved: so long as social asphyxia shall be possible … so long as ignorance and misery remain on earth, books like this cannot be useless." Victor Hugo, "Les Misérables," 1862
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