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AFAIK...
You post Answer, OP gets notification of answer.
He Comments your answer, You get notification of comment.
You Reply to his comment, YOU get notification.
It does not appear that the comments in Q&A are threaded like the forums.
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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Correct. This is what I know as well.
Dalek Dave wrote: It does not appear that the comments in Q&A are threaded like the forums.
I am requesting something similar.
..Go Green..
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I asked the same earlier. Chris told, they are discussing on the same then.
Currently, the email is not sent to enquirer if replied back as a reply-comment to another one.
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I felt I read something similar, but couldn't find the post. So I created a new post.
Anyways let's find out the discussion results.
..Go Green..
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Setup:
Person A posts a question, person B answers the question, then person A posts a comment asking for clarification to person B's answer.
There is no concept of "replying to a comment". You can post a new comment underneath an existing comment, but not directly reply to a comment. If you post a comment after a person posts a comment then the author of the question or answer to which the comment is attached will get the email, not the author of the comment that was posted before yours.
We've debated internally what we should do (threaded comments vs non threaded) and we've decided we want to keep things simple.
However, we could certainly add an option "notify me when a comment is added to this thread" which would send emails when any additional comment was posted, or alternatively we could add a "Reply" button to a comment that will post a comment under other comments, but send a notification to the comment to which you are (nominally) replying, plus to the owner of the question/answer
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: "notify me when a comment is added to this thread" which would send emails when any additional comment was posted
Seems a good option to me. A user can keep track of a post he/she wants.
Chris Maunder wrote: "Reply" button to a comment that will post a comment under other comments, but send a notification to the comment to which you are (nominally) replying, plus to the owner of the question/answer
Again a good option. You are talking about a threaded system here. I guess this is what some people have suggested.
Whatever it would be, I am waiting for it to be implemented soon.
..Go Green..
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I just wanted to quote a line from the answer (and change it slightly) in a comment and copy/pasted a code line:
strFileName = reader.GetString(reader.GetOrdinal("<Column_name>"));
When submitting the comment text, it removed <Column_name> and nothing I can do to get it back seems to work.
The thread in question was this one:
http://www.codeproject.com/Questions/83369/How-to-read-single-column-in-database.aspx
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Having Column_name in tags renders it inviosible unless you turn off the Encode option.
However, this leads to the pre or code tags not being read properly.
To resolve, simply add a space after the < and it will work.
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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Change the < and > characters to the literal values < and >.
It's time for a new signature.
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Thanks, both to you and Dave!
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I happened to check out the message history for a 1-voter on one of my tips, and all the guy does is 1-vote. I susp[ect he has many accounts, but this one is over 7 years old. He's never posted an article, tip/trick/blog, and only has 61 messages - most of them "My Vote of 1".
http://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Messages.aspx?fmid=220809[^]
Can we do something about this please?
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 ----- "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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What do you want me to do about someone exercising his right to downvote tips such as "Lets look at their six sucky resume words.To know more go to www.blahblah.com" or "In 2010, we have a recent project List remover". I don't think a certificate is warranted. A tip of my hat maybe?
Are you honestly telling me that you, John Simmons, the man for whom a thick skin is required simply to discuss the weather with, the man who brooks no limp wrists, the man who makes new members quake even to think he is reading their article - this same John Simmons is upset at a 1 vote?
Tell me it's not true.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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My point was that thats ALL he's done. In 7 years.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 ----- "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: My point was that thats ALL he's done. In 7 years.
He's just a very negative person I guess but I don't think that warrants banning him or removing his votes.
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I think you have to look at the context (which I have not done). If he consistently votes 1 when everybody else is voting 4 and 5, then that's a sign he's off-base. But if there are other 1s and 2s and 3s, then maybe not.
Basically, it just doesn't matter, because the voting system is totally fubar, and needs to be thrown out.
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Do you feel that the ratings on articles that are more than a couple of months old are wildly misleading as to their actual value as an article?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Here's what I feel: the voting system is the #1 thing that causes complaints like John's. It's the #1 thing that confuses and distresses new authors. It's the #1 thing that causes negative feelings toward Codeproject and Codeproject members.
What should replace it? A simple up-vote (thumbs up, if you will). You will still be able to see how many people voted "up", and so there will still be a "rating". Don't like an article or post? Don't vote. Very simple.
I don't know what's on the current to-do list, but IMHO this is absolutely the best thing that could be implemented right now, in terms of improving members' experience with the site.
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For a while now I was opposed to this point of view. Now I'm inclined to agree with you on this.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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The problem with this is you are effectively asking everyone here to give up their e-peens.
One of the perqs of having a high rep is the fact that if someone like that uni-voter hits an article, someone who HAS contributed, who HAS done things for this site and has attempted to make this site better (and not just by telling people when they suck) can demolish that 1 vote with a 5.
I can always tell when a certain uni-voter hits because my 5 against their 1 results in a 4. The weighing of the vote is a major benefit to being high in rep.
Changing it to an up/down vote loses that weight.
If you think codeproject is bad, go over to stack overflow. They don't let you comment on answers until you have gotten enough rep. Getting that rep was nearly impossible because of some strategic voting they had for a while and they had to change how votes were tendered because of it. About their only good point is that you get x number of downvotes a day, and doing one makes you take a hit. Even with this, good luck getting rep at all.
If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.
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Sorry, I don't see how you would be giving up anything. You would still get rep points for an up-vote. And you wouldn't have to bother with all that nonsense about down-voting, because there wouldn't be any.
Also, there would still be "Report" buttons for articles and posts, which would bring an article/post to the CP admins' attention, just like they do now.
So again, what would you be giving up?
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I'm not disagreeing that a lot of members get upset when they see a 1-vote.
My question is purely: are the actual ratings that articles get sufficiently inaccurate as to be of little value to new or casual visitors looking to see which article is good and which is bad?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: are the actual ratings that articles get sufficiently inaccurate
For most articles with a lifespan of N months or more, I believe the answer is no.
N is probably at least 3, maybe 6 or 12.
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Chris Maunder wrote: are the actual ratings that articles get sufficiently inaccurate
that may well mean exactly the opposite of what I think it means, so I'm not gonna answer this.
In Dutch it is very wise not to include one or more negatives in a question (you'll get the complete opposite answer when moving 50 km east or west, even when talking to respondents who share the same opinion); and I would assume the same holds true in many languages.
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Luc Pattyn wrote: In Dutch it is very wise not to include one or more negatives in a question
Generally this is true, but the point of my question is "are ratings as awful and broken as you say they are". Hans feels the rating system is completely broken. If, however, articles achieve (on average) ratings that are a good reflection of their merit then I would then propose that the rating system is, in fact, working.
Yes, a poorly formed question. I'll admit it.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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My answer is: not broken at all. It works well. I seldom, if ever, find an article with an average score I don't agree with. Sometimes I think I would do things differently, sometimes I would hope to get a better explanation, sometimes I wonder if we needed yet another article on the subject, but overall I agree with the votes, once the article voting has settled a bit. The very early votes may be off IMO, and that is why I don't pay much attention to them when they are few (and make sure to compensate if I read and disagree).
I know some people are very sensitive as far as receiving (low? non-5?) votes goes. And yes, the very first 1 can be painful. It is a pity the new article is likely to disappear from the "latest best picks" on the home page as soon as it gets a less-than-5 vote; which reduces the likelihood it will get a lot of extra votes any time soon.
Here are some more ideas, all trying to make the situation more acceptable:
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to ease the kicked-from-homepage pain: you show 5 best picks; OK; you might show 10; or make it somewhat selectable. You also turned that header into a link. It leads to the "Top Ranked Articles" list, which is an all-time best, not recent on average. My suggestion is:
Make the header "Latest Best Picks", do not make that a link; add a "More" next to it (so it stands out more), make that a link to a list that shows maybe the top-100 of latest best picks, so if and when a new article gets kicked from the home page, it probably is still high in that list.
This list is different from the "Latest Articles", which is strictly chronological. So the author, having to digest a 4 (or less), can still see his article shine (and later fade away) in the "More Latest Best Picks" list. Of course, the "Top Ranked Articles" should continue to be available somehow, probably as a menu entry on top and/or in the left pane.
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to better show the effect of the voting weights: the little histogram graphically shows unweighted votes; so an article with a bronze 1 and a platinum 5 shows two peaks with equal height, although they represent quite a different importance in the score. Why not make the graph reflect that? Give it say twice the height, and show weighted counts (that would be a height of 1 for the bronze 1, and a height of 8 for the platinum 5). Alternatively, give each column a width that corresponds to the weight it has, so in the example the 1 is much narrower than the 5.
And I would use twice as big a font to display the score, as that is the one number that matters IMO.
score: 4.56
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I don't believe schemes would work well that remove say the 10% most extreme votes. It is not clear how they should work early on, with few votes cast; and if a first low gets hidden, it may well invite another undeserved 1 (or 5). However, you could consider using such a scheme for time-limited competitions: simply apply the filtering at the end, but make sure all entrants are aware of it, so they know sporadic extreme votes will not influence the outcome at all.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
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