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Hi Peter,
fyi: I probably did not mention the more specific idea of a "grace period" during which questions cannot be deleted if flagged in my first post because: I've mentioned that idea, in detail, many times in posts here on this forum; and, at the time I wrote the first post, I was a bit "burned-out" mentally.
In the past, I've advocated the idea on this forum that CP Members with some "threshold" reputation level as "Authority" be able to flag a QA question as "on hold for deletion and down-voting" if:
1. comments have been posted on the question asking for clarification, or asking the user to tag the question more completely.
2. the OP has responded, in some meaningful way, to comments in a way that indicates they are making a good-faith effort to make the question clearer.
My thoughts about the possible roles of MVP's in this are not so clear; some MVP's right now regularly post comments, and we-don't-do-homework advice to the OP of a non-technical nature, as solutions, now. Some MVP's rapidly post solutions (often cut-and-paste replies from previous answers) that are really off-topic.
I find it interesting that while CP does have the role/status of "Protector" available, the behavior of some of the persons with this role is anything but "protection."
cheers, Bill
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
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BillWoodruff wrote: Your implying that extending a window of time (perhaps 24 hours) for newbies/newcomers to have the opportunity to clarify their questions in response to comments on their original post (before they are deleted) somehow will trigger a flood of poor-quality questions is simply a negative fantasy on your part.
Well that's not what I intended to mean. I said that with some questions (yes, it's a judgement call, there are no hard and fast rules) I think the OP should be given a prompt for more info if the question is generally of ok quality or has potential to be, but if the question is just trash then it should be closed.
The language aspect is another interesting one...there have been questions that *I* understand (even if they're vague) that other people who don't have English as their first language don't and seek to close the question, sometimes successfully and that can be frustrating, especially if you've provided an answer as you *did* understand it. I think most people would agree (?) that perhaps existing comments\solutions should remain visible if a question is closed.
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F-ES Sitecore wrote: I think most people would agree (?) that perhaps existing comments\solutions should remain visible if a question is closed. An interesting point, and one I'm inclined to agree with, but, then, what would it mean that a question is "closed."
Maybe a better way to focus on this issue is to ask:
"In what circumstances should a question be "frozen" for any further posting/editing, etc.; and, in what circumstances should a question be deleted ?"
If the question is an obvious waste of time, but there is, for whatever reason, an excellent solution posted ... yes, this does happen ... what then ?
«Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.» Benjamin Franklin
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As an aside, it takes 3 reports to close a post but if one of those 3 used a different reason to the other 2 then only the other 2 are listed on the closure notice.
The "bit of slack" gets my vote too - I've often come across questions where comments suggest that other members don't think the question is clear but I've interpreted it ok (the reverse has also been true!). Then when I come back with the solution I find the post closed
I usually avoid reporting as unclear or not-a-question until the OP has had a chance to come back with more information
If a post is being reported for spam/abuse then I think a swift end is justified, but for unclear reports deffo a bit more leeway required
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My friend's Account has been de-activated without any reason. He has not posted any post.
http://www.codeproject.com/script/Membership/View.aspx?mid=6477852
Closed because the member is being abusive or is a troll. Reported by den2k88, Richard Deeming, KaushalJB, Richard MacCutchan, super, phil.o, OriginalGriff, Rohan Leuva, Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter on Wednesday, October 21, 2015 8:12pm
Any bug?
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He used the Hindi-equivalent of the f-word. Not sure if he had to be banned for that.
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Especially in case one write it in English it would be "corrected" automatically and after this correction usually nobody will take care about the f word. Looks pretty unfair to ban him because of this.
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Yeah, we have too many of these over-sensitive people here these days. It's just text at the end of the day.
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Nish Nishant wrote: we have too many of these over-sensitive people here these days. What happens is one person posts it in Spam and Abuse and then everyone else comes along and trusts that the poster has done due diligence and so they mark it as abusive without even researching it. Maybe a little too much trust in that forum.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Absolutely right and I have to think about this for myself again, I mean to report something for which I can't read the "abuse text". I think I trusted too much in the past.
Not in this case, but maybe in a lot of other cases....
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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0x01AA wrote: but maybe in a lot of other cases I've done it too. And most of the time people who post in here are correct.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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hmmm (there is no Translation available )
I hope it is like this. But anyway I will be mutch more cautious in future.
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Who is saying that f***** is right and c****** is an abusive word..?
First he should be investigate if he don't know meaning of that word. In India its very common word people of India used it their friend circle,
How can he mark a comment to abusive that he is not clear that its abusive or not?
A person maintaining his account more that 6 years and 1 day somebody came and marked his account as abusive and many of them just go with flow and blocked his account.
For his information the word so called abusive meaning is "An Idiot" in India.
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AVI_T wrote: A person maintaining his account more that 6 years
Number years doesn't matter at all here in this context. When was asked to remove the abusive post, why he/you did not remove it?
cheers,
Super
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That time hi is not in city, and hi didn't have computer to use CP that time, when hi back with his holidays and want to login then he come to know that his account is de activated.
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Let me ask you straight forward, Are you that guy with new ID? In that case I can discuss further but else no point arguing without facts and talking about a third person
cheers,
Super
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Is any way to Re-Activate blocked account?
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I think this thread got way too side tracked, so the site admins may not even be following the thread. You may want to email Chris or Sean directly.
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Is that all it was? From the message in the Spam forum, I assumed it was something much worse.
In that case, I'm happy for my report on the user to be removed.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Yeah, he did use it in noun form though and addressed the person he was replying to. Still, that's the sort of thing where I'd expect folks to down-vote or ignore and move on.
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Nish Nishant wrote: that's the sort of thing where I'd expect folks to down-vote or ignore and move on
No. I would still say, translation is irrelevant here.
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning
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Then please search for all Messages containing "f***", "f******" and similar and Report them. Sick from my Point of view! I do not Support using this words, but writing it in English it is automatically "masked" and usually nobody to bother about it.
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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I think you need to re-read my message, particularly the second line.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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