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Maybe not explicitly but what do you understand by "Mix between site bug and users abuse" and by this:
"...in my opinion that bug is purposely being abused, as only the 5th article in the latest best picks is actually new."
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The articles in question are articles that were deleted and then republished. An article's "posted" date is the date at which it becomes publicly available. If an article is deleted then republished we set the "publicly available" date as the date it was republished.
An author, for various reasons, decided to remove all their articles, and then decided to republish all their articles.
I'll let the voters decide on the articles in question.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris, I am not sure if we are seeing the same situation.
I already deleted an article and when I published it again, it came with 0 votes and no previous history. But this was a long time ago, so I don't know if things changed.
Yet, what bothers me is that any article that already has votes and is republished immediately becomes the "Latest Best Pick" because it is seen as new by the system, yet full of votes that were got before the article was republished. It seems that it is not considering only the new votes since it was republished, so, an article that got hundreds of votes during years, if it is republished, becomes the "Best Pick" because it has hundreds of votes, while a new article, very good, with 50 votes in a single day, will stay at second... or fifth, when there are too many articles in that situation.
And, if it was to be able to appear in the latest best picks, I believe that any update to an article should be allowed to appear there too.
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That's not my main problem, it is that they have a relatively high rating, but are horrible articles. They flourish with mistakes and bad practice advice. If that's how futile the voting system is, then we might as well skip the votes all together, in my mind.
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There is a new procedure in place (for testing, I think) to try and re-jig this. If you can point me at the bad practice articles, I'd be pleased to give it a try.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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This one was pretty bad:
Basic C# OOP Concept[^]
I did notice that the rating went down from 4.01 to 3.91 when I voted.
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I knocked it down another 0.1 as well...
I've tried the new reporting system, and I'll see what happens.
Still, at least the author has 70 friends. Or 70 sock puppets...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Or he has 70 students, god forbid
He has some other bad articles as well, but I think this was the worst.
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Not the one I meant - talk to Sean about the email he sent me yesterday - but a damn good idea!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Ah yes.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I agree with the new voting system... yet to me the latest best picks should be only to new articles. Republished articles can only be considered new if they were deleted and republished when they were actually new yet.
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Nice
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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If the try was the "innacurate/misleading" report, we have make it work. Article is gone.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Yes, but I count on the voting system to filter out the articles that are really good and I can learn a lot from. Having false votes is a nightmare, especially if someone is unknown author, or new to the CodeProject site and know which ones to trust. I don't know about you but I cant read thousands of articles to find the good stuff, I need some help in selecting which ones to read.
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I know and I agree with you.
My answer was to OG, a bit offtopic to your point, sorry
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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That's all right, I'm just a bit frustrated about it so I get a bit wired up
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I had an article ready to be posted, I was writing the article for 2 days, I did preview it more than once and save it constantly. I tried to check the last version for last time, click on preview and suddenly the WHOLE ARTICLE dissapeared. I got an error from CodeProject and everything is gone. Two days job thrown to the garbage....
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I'm on it.
Update: What was the title of the article? You mentioned you were saving it over the 2 days. Does that mean you were clicking the "save draft" or were you checking the "work in progress" button and hitting "publish"?
I can see that you started an article last night (about 12 hrs ago) but it had no content and no versions of it had been saved in revision histories.
cheers
Chris Maunder
modified 3-Feb-15 9:52am.
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It's the 4th article on the same topic and it was named "MVC and Identity Framework 2.0 (Part 4)". I've been working on the article for 2 days, I saw it before in the preview, I uploaded screenshots from my computer and I swear it was there. After the last preview it dissapeared with an error from CodeProject. Before that it was always there, now it's totally empty.
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I apologise for the problems you're seeing. This sucks. I've spent a bit of time tracking through what's happened and the dates seem weird.
You mentioned you'd been working on this for 2 days. I can find the stub of an article that has two uploads (this and this). That article was started last night (13hrs ago) and the uploads were done this morning (8hrs ago).
Every article that's started will have the timestamp of when you started editing it, and even if we had serious issue (and we did for about 7hrs last night) the basic article stub would still have the correct timestamps.
This is turning into a bit of a mystery.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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The whole article is lost anyway, no matter if you see an update 12 hours ago, 13, 2 days or 5 days. Everything is gone.
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We've spent the morning looking in to your particular issue. Other's experienced this bug but there were plenty of previous draft versions from which we could simply take the content from and fix. Our system was designed to handle an bug like we saw last night by having extra redundancy.
However, with your article that was started last night we aren't seeing any of these saved versions, so we're now guessing it could be an issue with our UI that has caused the issue.
When you say "you saved drafts", did you do any of the following:
1. Pushed the green "save draft" button at the top right?
2. Pressed the grey "Save draft and exit" button at the bottom of the page
3. Checked "This is a work in progress" and clicked "Publish"
4. Didn't press any buttons and just let the auto-saver save drafts and then you closed the browser
5. Didn't touch any "save" buttons, but kept your browser opened and at some point hit "refresh"
Any help you can provide will help us make the system more foolproof.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I'm quite sure there was an issue and there were constant errors not showing up, so I cannot help you, I did the same I always do and I saw the message "Saved N minutes ago" changing to "Saved <1 min ago" all the time but nothing was ever saved.
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So either
4. Didn't press any buttons and just let the auto-saver save drafts and then you closed the browser
5. Didn't touch any "save" buttons, but kept your browser opened and at some point hit "refresh"
or did you not close your browser or hit refresh at all?
Thanks for helping narrow this down.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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