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I imagine a lot of work went into the new layout and the overall look isn't too bad. I could get used to it.
I guess the thing that puts me off the most, besides the thinner looking fonts and too much white space, is mixing the Lounge and the Insider topics in th Our Community list. Is there a way to separate them or something, as they were before? Also the topics I've already viewed do not show up in a different color anymore, which is a P.I.T.A.
Overall, it seems like the new look puts less information on the screen than the previous design. And as a developer, I like to see lots of info, rather than to have to scroll around looking for it.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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The issue I faced was we have the Lounge, the Insider news, Weird and Wonderful and a few others and there was no way to sensibly fit them all in. So, but piping in all the forums into the same summary it allows exposure to as many forums as we want. We also added a "Latest news" section to the homepage (under the latest articles) that's dedicated to the news in case you specifically wanted to follow what's been posted.
I also understand and sympathise with the feeling that there's less. There isn't really that much less overall, but it is more spaced. I personally like dense, complicated dashboards that show everything but this type of layout is completely off-putting to those who have never seen the site before or who are unfamiliar. The absolute #1 comment I got from everyone when they viewed the site was "wow - busy" with a despairing look
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I would like to say you thank you for all these efforts.
Despite of some disagreements we have on some separate items (I will find time to report some problems when the application stabilized, don' worry ), I really like the site's style and can say for sure that it demonstrates really good taste and mature usability thinking. I especially appreciate improvements in fonts and typography, layout as well as the number of other aspects.
I think I don't have to argue that the purely functional features and usability come first, and at least major annoyances should be fixed. I don't worry about that too much, because the history of previous problem resolution demonstrated to me that they were all reasonable to very good and complete in timely manner.
This is the main motivation of my reports. I really want to be collaborative and contribute to all those improvements, as that means really good productivity (which we already can enjoy in all aspects, overall), and really pleasing working environment for all my colleagues and myself.
Thank you very much,
—SASergey A Kryukov
modified 24-Sep-12 19:25pm.
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Thanks Sergey - I appreciate the support, the suggestions, the reports, and mostly, your patience!
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Yeah, I understand there are always trade-offs. Such is life. I know from experience that trying to satisfy everyone is not only impossible, but frustrating as well.
If you could fix the link colors so that links that have been followed change color like has always been the HTML default behavior, that would be good. Is there a way to make the Our Community list scroll, so those of us who like to see more can scroll down?
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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In Reputation History,
If you get - 16 point you will get a new line, both with IE 9 and Chrome 21.0.1180.89 m.
Same thing if you're having the date 23 Sep 2012 11:03 AM
modified 24-Sep-12 14:07pm.
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With the left-hand menu (the forumlist) collapsing, I feel like the lesser-visited forums will get less attention. It's impossible to see if there are new "Free Tools" if you're in the C#-forum.
Can I has an "always expand" option if you don't want to change it back? That way I'll know where new posts are without having to click anywhere, and jump to the correct forum with a single click.
Having the menu collapse is not an improvement.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
if you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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This is especially brutal when it is a long list that is open and when you click on some other list and the long list closes, the newly opened list now scrolls off your screen and you have to now scroll up to find the open list.
Chris Meech
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In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]
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My suggestion is that they add a new menu header that never collapses (or maybe allow the user to toggle it, and make that setting persistent) and that contains all the forums with new content. Maybe put it at the bottom of the menu so if it gets too long the excess can be ignored without harming the primary menu items. The ability to pin forums so they appear near the top of that list would also be good (e.g., so I can easily see when the "C#" and "Weird and Wonderful" forums have a new message).
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How about if the add the "pinning" of thread messages to headings? Then we could pin the ones we look at regularly?
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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How about showing the orange 'new post' dot next to the forum group header as well. That way one could see that there are new messages in at least one forum in that group, and can then click on the header to see what's new.
I think computer viruses should count as life. I think it says something about human nature that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. We've created life in our own image.
Stephen Hawking
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That partly helps, but I don't think it would be as convenient as it should be.
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Zac Greve wrote: How about showing the orange 'new post' dot next to the forum group header as well.
Ideally, there'd be a count - but I'd be happy with a full menu
Bastard Programmer from Hell
if you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Exactly what I ended up doing.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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And it works.
I think computer viruses should count as life. I think it says something about human nature that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. We've created life in our own image.
Stephen Hawking
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I'll second that! 5+
It used to be way easier to spot new categories with new entries.
If you can't settle on the expand all thingy Eddy proposed, why not have the categories that contain new entries appear in bold or some other indicating coloration or whatever.
Cheers!
"With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine."
Ross Callon, The Twelve Networking Truths, RFC1925
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I didn't like it either. I've spent a bit of time tweaking.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Hi Eddy,
At least here on this forum: if I expand the "Product Life-Cycle" heading in the left menu by clicking it: "Free Tools" shows up there: I think that's a strange category for "Free Tools" to be in !
best, Bill
<color>"When it comes to atoms, language can be used only as in poetry. The poet, too, is not nearly so concerned with describing facts as with creating images." Niels Bohr
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I can see a yellow message which reads:
Sorry, no entries were found matching tags VC6, VC7, VC7.1, Win2K, WinXP, Win2003, IE6.0, IE5.5, IE7, VB7.x, VB8.0, VB9.0, C++, C, VB, VBScript, Javascript, XML, CSS, Java, SQL, Windows, WinMobile, HTML, MFC, QA, Linux, PHP, Office, LAMP, MySQL, Google, Flash, Blackberry, Hardware, VB10, Win7, MVC, Recursive, Google-Maps, Excel, Ubuntu, Gridview, User-controls, regular-expression, General, UI, VB.NET, Forms, NeedMysticalPowers, USB, Unicode, Unmanaged, oops, HTTP, TabControl, os, other, HTML5, questions, NoEffort, query, ups, Novice, form, programming
This is strange because if I refresh it then I can see the Q&A that fulfill my filters.
Apart of that, when this happens, the footer of the page appears in the middle of the screen, hovering over "Top experts 24hrs."
Not important, is just to let you know...
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Sounds like a timeout/load issue.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Probably...
Don't worry, I can live with that...
And as in my company we are with a really slow ADSL connection... who knows...
Thank you!
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When I see the mobile version[^] of CP, it shows 'Full site' option twice at top-left corner.
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I have it too on a windows 7.5 phone
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Thanks for reporting it. Fixed, and update due tonight.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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