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Down-votes from new accounts are already weighted to have less of an impact. Any there would need to be quite a few of them to balance out a few up-votes from long-standing members.
Is it really worth worrying about? Aside from the potential complexity of implementing it, wouldn't it make CodeProject less friendly, and more like a certain Stack of sites which shall remain nameless?
People can down-vote your articles for any number of reasons - it's too basic, it's too complicated, they don't like your profile picture, they're having a bad day, etc. That doesn't always mean their opinion is invalid. Just remember the old adage: opinions are like arseholes. Everyone has one. And everyone else's stinks.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I considered the less-friendly appearance even before I posted - and this is not to take away all they can do, and in particular, not to take away the good reasons to be here.
In addition, all the point-privileges aren't removed from new accounts - just the negative ones. Accounts are very simple to open, here at CP, and so they should be. Like any good thing, there's always someone who will find a way to abuse it.
The proposal, and a consensus of sorts would certainly be in order, should have little-to-no effect on the new members (not one they'd even be aware of in most cases). If they become even vaguely like regulars than all the usual will kick-in. If, on the other hand, just here for Q&A as an example, then let's keep it more related to that. Keeping with the Q&A group, as an example, I've looked at the profile of the poster at times - some have been here many times, but only to post questions. Basically, tourists. Should a tourist get to vote? Should our new visitors arrive hear hot-and-heavy looking to down-vote things?
So you've emphasized what I touched upon: the effect upon the innocent. It's not because they're "tourists" that I don't want to hear their opinion (vote) but I want to put a practical obstacle in the way of the abusers and I'd imagine few if any new members would ever notice.
Think of it a bit like two-factor authentication. Surely, 99.999% of login attempts are by those who are authorized to log in. Still, a barrier was erected to make it harder for that other 0.001% because they're not going to go away. It's not to be mean and cold-hearted to new account holders, but to make the global experience (i.e., not having one's account wiped out) better for all.
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This post[^] deserves a gold star, but reactions aren't taken into account. They should probably count as much as upvotes, whether they're positive or not, because the post is clearly eliciting responses.
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Greg, thank you for your comments, but I am content with the system as is.
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It wasn't about you per se.
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Posts with > 10 reactions get a star.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I think it's a good idea, but there's the caveat that what if the reactions are primarily off-topic and extend the thread. Perhaps a slight mitigation: emphasis on direct replies?
"Emphasis" in that just inspiring multiple conversations thread still enhances the lounge. Something like "A star for 10 reactions: 3/4 point for each direct reaction; 1/4 each for total reactions in all threads. Thus a 1:4 split and not nearly so bad a book-keeping effort.
Perhaps it's too much effort for something that's not really that important. Or, you may have already done it
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In Article Submission Wizard, Editor corrupting articles contain when deselecting Source button.
The wizard adds empty paragraphs in source code.
<h2>Introduction</h2>
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<p>When starting to play with Integer Factorization, trying all possible factors is the first idea, that algorithm is named <b>Trial Division</b>.</p>
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<p>The problem is that with each division, if it don't lead to a factor, all the work done is lost. That annoyed me and I have searched another way.</p>
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Patrice
“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein
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Can you post a snippet of the original HTML you pasted in?
cheers
Chris Maunder
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<h2>Introduction</h2>
<p>When starting to play with Integer Factorization, trying all possible factors is the first idea, that algorithm is named Trial Division.</p>
<p>The problem is that with each division, if it don't lead to a factor, all the work done is lost. That annoyed me and I have searched another way.</p>
In Integer Factorization: Another Approach to Trial Division[^]
Patrice
“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein
modified 11-Jan-21 9:38am.
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You had LU instead of UL for your unordered list.
The editor was then trying to correct the orphaned LI tags and got a little confused.
I renamed LU to UL, cleaned out the empty paragraphs (Ctrl+H works in the editor) and it's all good
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Thank you Chris.
Can you 'unpost' the article, it is an early draft, not ready for publishing.
Patrice
“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein
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So there I was, playing with scraping the CP MyArticles page (using the latest version of HTMLAgilityPack in a WPF app), and I tried my code on this page - https://www.codeproject.com/Articles/Marc-Clifton#Article[^]
Despite the page claiming 241 articles and 6 tips, all I could scrape was 197 articles and three tips. Viewing Marc's tips/tricks, only three are listed. Viewing his articles, only 197 are shown. When I looked at the articles/tips I scraped, the first and last item in each category did indeed match the first/last item displayed on the web page.
My conclusion is that the number of articles and tips being displayed is messed up.
I also viewed source on the page (in both FireFix and Chromium), and came up with 197 articles, and three tips.
I think this is only a problem with people that have a large number of articles.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I've noticed this too. It seems to occur with authors who've been writing for a long time. Maybe some of their earlier articles have been deleted because they were on topics such as "How to Find a Square Root on an Abacus".
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It seems that it maxes out at 200 total items (articles, blog entries, and tips). Almost like it's trying to take a percentage of each category to display.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I've never checked that! I'm just saying that if you look at members who wrote, say, 7 articles 10 years ago, you'll sometimes find considerably fewer.
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My articles from 2001 are still being shown.
My articles + tips + blogs has not yet exceeded 200, so all of my stuff is being shown.
I first noticed the problem with Sacha Barbers articles, and it all shows a max of 200 items.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I was going to show you some examples, but I can't find any!
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Fixed in next deploy
cheers
Chris Maunder
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When is that scheduled? I'll try my code again when it's deployed.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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The only way I can see the current results is to vote again. Am I missing something?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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When I go here:
Survey Voting Form - Best Article of December 2020[^]
There's no "View Results" mechanism available (that would be much more convenient).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Select Surveys on the Features menu.
Then select Voting in the dropdown. and click Go.
This will list the current voting surveys.
"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."
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