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Hans Dietrich wrote: Repost, meaning the same OP has posted the same question again?
Yes, Same OP. that's why I said I add a comment to OP regarding reposting same question.
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In that case, I think it's appropriate to leave a comment.
Please consider:
1. Someone (in another forum) might have told him to post his question in another forum, which explains why you see it again.
2. The response to his first question might not have answered his question; or maybe he didn't understand it (language problem?); or maybe it didn't work for him. Of course, if it was me asking the question, I would say, "Hey guys, I'm posting again because none of the previous solutions worked for me..." But, maybe the OP isn't a native English speaker, and he doesn't know how to say that, so he just repeats his question. All of which would make me ask, "Did you try the previous solutions? Didn't they work?"
Here's the thing: the guy's back, he's got the same question. Assuming he's not a troll, downvoting him isn't going to do anything except make him decide CP is not helpful. If you don't want to find out why he came back, then pass it by. Spanking him with a downvote is not a good solution.
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Hans Dietrich wrote: 1. Someone (in another forum) might have told him to post his question in another forum, which explains why you see it again.
Yeah, Mostly I check their forum messages & Q/A questions before my action.
Hans Dietrich wrote: 2. The response to his first question might not have answered his question; or maybe he didn't understand it (language problem?); or maybe it didn't work for him.
Today this guy[^] posted a repost within 30 mins gap. Now the 2nd question has been removed. BTW our senior members doing Edit(s) for OP's question to rephrase. Particularly you can see OriginalGriff's Edit(s). Like Proper Tags, Replaced txtspeaks, formatted Code, etc., with his comment.
Hans Dietrich wrote: Here's the thing: the guy's back, he's got the same question. Assuming he's not a troll, downvoting him isn't going to do anything except make him decide CP is not helpful. If you don't want to find out why he came back, then pass it by. Spanking him with a downvote is not a good solution.
But our people(at least some) always explain things by made comment to OP. Even you can notice some comments like "You have posted the same question c# forum also, why......". So It looks like our members always check their previous history before their action.
But I got your points Hans, Good suggestions. I'll do my best like always.
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thatraja wrote: I down-vote(not mostly) questions which are reposts.
I would just delete duplicates, that's what Chris gave people deletion rights for.
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Agree Nish, I do the same for short gap reposts[^] but down-votes(with comments) for long gap reposts.
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This article Anonymus, the optimal language[^] was gone for a while and now it's back, it appears unchanged, but it no longer has the messages in its forum -- can you reattach them?
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Looks like the author deleted it and reposted, so it has a completely new forum.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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When I wander into the forums from my mobile phone, the site informs me about enabling Javascript and selecting the "Normal" layout for optimal viewing. This in spite of the fact that JS is enabled on the phone browser. Also the "Layout" dropdown is not visible when viewing from the phone. I only see the "per page" and "Date filter" dropdown boxes visible.
Also, when switching to the PC after browsing from the mobile, the same message gets displayed and the dropdowns aren't visible on the first page load. But the message disappears and the dropdowns appear if refreshed again.
The phone is a HTC running Froyo and the default Android browser app.
[EDIT]: I forgot to mention that I did log in from the mobile too.
SG
Aham Brahmasmi!
modified on Saturday, May 7, 2011 7:23 AM
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Maybe I offended someone.. if so, I didn't notice. Anyway, my posts are being 1-voted for no good reason.
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Think of it as a badge of honour.
I have had more one posts over the years than I care to recall.
At least someone cares enough to actually read what you say!
I shall 5 you to offset the univoter.
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
CCC Link[ ^]
Trolls[ ^]
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Thanks.
I don't really mind the loss of debator points, but they also attacked my Authority rep and that annoys me.
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There are some forums which attract a certain type of ...
The best things in life are not things.
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Downvotes neutralized.
The more anger towards the past you carry in your heart, the less capable you are of loving in the present.
My Blog![ ^]
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Thanks
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Get used to it - it happens. The important thing is not to let the univoter know it annoys you. If you do, then it gives them an incentive to continue. It you ignore the univotes, they will get bored and stop - why expend effort if it has no visible effect?
We all at some time get an idiot annoyed, and they go on a univoting spree. I had one who searched out every post of mine they could find and down voted it. Fortunately, the down vote only gave a couple of negative points, and most of the posts got up-voted in sympathy, generaly with high positives. I think I came out ahead on the deal in the end...which would probably really wound up the univoter if he knew!
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
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I came out far ahead too, on my debator rep anyway.. still missing some authority points though, about 20 or so, not as many as before
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Don't know what type of revenge....
Anyway Countered....
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Thanks
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Even with 5 votes to approve, a several non-articles have been getting through recently. Example[^]. I left a note there to that effect, but it disappeared on publication soon after. People seem to be approving stuff without even reading the existing messages.
Is there a reason why the voters should be anonymous? Flame retardant reasons?
Second question - are direct submissions by email also placed in the moderation queue, or are they sent out directly? (not complaining, just asking)
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I was one of the 5 approvers for that particular article. It's short but I don't think length alone should mean it should be a tip/trick. Personally speaking, I only post articles here since with a Tip/Trick is more like a wiki (and sometimes that's something to avoid). Also Chris has now stated that articles and blogs are considered at the same level and as you surely know, there are several approved blog entries here that are as small or even smaller. So I guess it's time that we adopted a different approach towards smaller articles.
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I agree, Nish.
As far as article length goes, it would be easy enough for the admins to set up their tools to check for a minimum number of words; for example, in the ASW, it could say, "That article is too short to be submitted as an article. Would you like to submit it as a Tip instead?"
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Same opinion, and source code should not be counted.
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In this case, the article was repeating MSDN and the original article (which the author quoted; the original got 1-voted for the same reason). However that is not really the issue, I think there have been several more that went through.
About blogs and articles being treated the same, I disagree with CP's policy, blogs are easier to write and people will probably let slide what would not pass in an article. IIRC, short articles were considered acceptable in the past (long ago, before there were millions of members), so what you say is probably the best course of action. Quality, rather than quantity.
Have you any idea about the second question? (not objecting, edited articles can go out directly, but putting them in the queue would reduce some of the editors' workload)
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Indivara wrote: Have you any idea about the second question? (not objecting, edited articles can
go out directly, but putting them in the queue would reduce some of the editors'
workload)
Well, with direct submissions, many are often submitted as word documents, sometimes even pdf files. The editors usually reject really awful ones, but once they select an article and edit/format it, I reckon there's no need to get that approved through status-based voting. And as far as I know all the CP editors have technical/software backgrounds - so they can be mostly trusted to pick the good ones out.
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Indivara wrote: Even with 5 votes to approve, a several non-articles have been getting through recently.
It's highly unlikely that 5 people(with the powers to approve - editors and high rep people) would not read and just approve the article.
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