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I love the idea, but wouldn't the list essentially just be this list[^] with a cutoff on date and rating/votes?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris, you know that the article voting here on CP is mostly based on popularity of current authors and technologies, regardless of how useful the article is. Unfortunately, when people abandon these once-popular technologies and move on, they never go back and re-vote, based on how useful the article actually proves to be.
What I propose is a usefulness list, heavily moderated by CP editors, to eliminate any fad tendencies.
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If you read blogs of programmers, you will see that a lot of them have lists like "My Top Ten ...". These lists are simply the things that the author has found useful. Imagine if every CP member had such a blog; the DIL is simply a concatenation of those lists.
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We allow members to mark their bookmarked articles as "publicly recommended". How about using that?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Unless I've missed something, "bookmarked articles" like "watched items" are both brain-dead; you don't get notices of article updates for either one. So I would say that using a useless feature as a means of voting on useful articles is a non-starter.
I think the emphasis should be on usefulness. Anything that is tied to ratings or popularity should be avoided. In fact, you could make a fresh start with the DIL by having a button that says, See who voted for this article. Clicking the button would show a list in chrono order of people who voted; first in list = first person to vote for the article. CP editors should be allowed to vote.
I look forward to seeing Bob in a straw hat sipping a marguerita.
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The entire point of the "Recommend" system, which I fully admit is under-explained and under-utilised, is to allow members to highlight the articles they feel are useful. This list of recommended articles then appears in your profile. You're asking for a system to allow members to put a gold stamp on an article and say "I find this useful" and that is precisely what the recommendation system does.
As to alerts: yes, they are coming, as are your download counts. For now, Bob is not sitting back sipping a cool drink in a hat. He's in bed with a box of kleenex doped up to the eyeballs on cold and flu medicine.
And he's grumpy.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Equal parts hot water and rum, add teaspoon of ginger.
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...but if the cold continues there is a danger it could become "equal parts of rum and ginger, add teaspoon of water"
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Maybe we should punt this to the Insiders? Using bookmarked articles might be a good idea, just not one I would have thought to use because I don't use that site feature.
Get well.
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How about everybody is allocated only ten articles to their personal top ten list. Then the article list would be the total count of how many times the article appears in a personal top ten list. The beauty of that is, as really old articles of technology that is fading in use, are removed from people's top ten list, they will drop in rank as well. Then newer technology articles will have a 'big wall' to climb to make it to the top of this list quickly.
Chris Meech
I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar]
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]
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I like that. The readers are much more involved, they could feel responsible for their top-10, much more so than freely voting a small or large number of articles. We might need some help, some stimulus to consider updating the top-10 any time we read an article.
Some practical questions: open for everyone? all with the same weight? or depending on rep (which rep? not just author I hope).
I foresee a bit of a problem to get it started though; just coming up with 10 right away ain't simple.
And I would like to have a textbox notepad next to each of the articles in my top 10, so I can keep private notes about them (why I liked each, what I liked about it, comparison to other articles, that kind of stuff).
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
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I'm not participating in frackin' Q&A, so if you want my opinion, ask away in a real forum (or on my profile page).
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MysticalPowers
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.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 ----- "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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If we can, it doesn't work (or it's not obvious that it does).
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 ----- "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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Hmm I could swear I tagged with MysticalPowers before, regarding Google how about something shorter like AskGoogle or GoogleIt ? Haven't figured out how to add new tags, sometimes it looks like it works (after a page reload), sometimes it doesn't.
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Adding new tags kind of works at the moment.
What I tried to test it: This morning I first added Malamanteau and then Oxymoron to a question, while reloading the page it changes back and forth between showing the new tag and not showing it. Made screenshots if someone is interested, I chose "malamanteau" to make sure it is not one of the existing tags (and because I like XKCD). Now, a few hours later, it always shows the question including the new tag: example[^].
Have a good weekend...
Moak
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Looks like this might be a caching issue. We'll look into it. Thanks for the report.
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We verified that it is a caching issue. What we've done is show a cautionary message indicating that some of your newly created tags may not initially appear. The caches get invalidated in no longer than an hour from server to server. This will have to do until we get a web-farm friendly caching service.
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Thanks for the info, you guys are quick with fixing bugs!
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No thank you for the bug reports!
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Three issues:
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When adding an alternative to a tip/trick, the original title, the alternative's author, and the first lines of the alternative get listed in the "Latest TT" list, as if the alt.author chose the title (he can't even edit it) and created everything.
I think the list should show the original title and author, and a message saying "alternative added by XYZ".
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The personal profile, when listing the tips/tricks, treats original and alternative TTs the same, so the tips tab on the "articles by XYZ" page is confusing, as some are original TTs, others mere replies to existing TTs (maybe on a subject I would never consider launching a TT about).
I would prefer to see a clear mark, maybe "original" and "alternative".
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The TT listing shows title, date, and all the regular stuff, including page views. On original TTs this looks like an actual view count, on alternates it is zero (even when votes have been cast). I understand original and alternatives share the page, so you can't really tell what was looked at; however showing zero does not seem right at all.
FWIW: happened here[^] and here[^].
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
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I'm not participating in frackin' Q&A, so if you want my opinion, ask away in a real forum (or on my profile page).
modified on Friday, May 14, 2010 7:19 AM
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Yeah, I always hated TT road frames - too squirrelly on the straights and too difficult to turn.
Wait. What were we talking about?
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
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Well, the TT thingy I was talking about is basically OK, the only problem is it gets misrepresented a bit. All this could easily be fixed, not sure squirrels could contribute though.
FWIW: I prefer N over TT scale any day.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
I only read formatted code with indentation, so please use PRE tags for code snippets.
I'm not participating in frackin' Q&A, so if you want my opinion, ask away in a real forum (or on my profile page).
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No HO?
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
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nope. HO has the majority market share, but that is dominated by toys; the real modeler prefers either HO or N, depends very much by country. e.g. the Netherlands are very much N. And Swiss has a lot of TT!
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
I only read formatted code with indentation, so please use PRE tags for code snippets.
I'm not participating in frackin' Q&A, so if you want my opinion, ask away in a real forum (or on my profile page).
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