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Chris Maunder wrote: I've deliberately left it to the community to self police but it seems this isn't being done.
There is no 'Vote to Remove' button in the Backroom, so I fail to see how we can Self Police that forum.
If Pac-Man had affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in dark rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic music.
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Chris Maunder wrote: If it were possible to ban people once and for all then your argument holds.
Okay, but you already ban spammers. You don't redirect them to the back room. And there are far many more spammers than there are people who go beyond acceptable limits of forum behavior.
I still don't see one valid reason to keep that forum alive.
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote: I still don't see one valid reason to keep that forum alive.
Because if it was deleted, the undesirables will surface in the more prominent forums. Chris can ban their IP address, but as you know, there are ways they can side-step this and rejoin. Although not ideal the backroom serves its purpose of keeping the undesirable people and topics away from the main throughfares.
If Pac-Man had affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in dark rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic music.
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Pompeyboy3 wrote: Chris can ban their IP address
He can't even really do that, I think. What if it's a company behind a single external IP address, and he ends up banning everybody at Microsoft?
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote: you already ban spammers
Assuming you are talking about advertisers, they are a bit of a different story. They have less of an emotional investment, so they are less likely to be a repeated burden and they are less likely to keep signing up. They also don't create as offensive of content. And the other spammers -- say, the people asking the same thing over and over -- will go away when they find their problem not being solved or when they are late (on their work or homework) and no longer have a problem to solve.
Also, some people who use the backroom are actual contributors. If we can let them talk amongst themselves (without us having to go there), then we get their contributions without much effort.
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aspdotnetdev wrote: they are a bit of a different story
Exactly.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I push on the "class" boundary quite often.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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LunaticFringe wrote: This crossed the line.
Different people draw this line differently.
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Don't be disingenous. This exceeded what any reasonable person would consider acceptable. The hamsters' and Chris' reactions should have made that clear.
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Clarification.
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L u n a t i c F r i n g e
modified on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 10:27 PM
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There's a shock. 
3x12=36
2x12=24
1x12=12
0x12=18
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Use of the N word, is not "politically incorrect". That's the kind of "mild mannered wordplay" that old school bigots use to try to excuse what is just straight up racism ("Oh it's those people with their politically incorrect detectors on again").
From the title of the message it sounded like an irredeemable racist & sexist rant. If it wasn't, then it shouldn't have had an offensive title, the original poster only has themselves to blame.
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So according to you, the N word is always irredeemable straight up racism?
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Yes. I stand by what I said.
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That's a bit old fashioned..
What do you suggest I call them, then?
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How about 'people'?
What a little snot.
You know, most men go through a period in their lives where they learn on the schoolground, as it were, what is and isn't acceptable.
It seems to me you could have benefitted from having your teeth kicked in once or twice in your youth.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
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Obviously referring to them as 'people' is not accurate. There are far more people.
That's as stupid as referring to men as "people". Sure, they are people, but there are also people who aren't men.
You are far more offensive then I am.
And now you have made me angry.
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harold aptroot wrote: you have made me angry
Hulk smash!
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I'm usually more subtle than that.
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Absolutely, if used by a white person, and not in a historical context.
e.g. I can refer to Jospeh Conrad's "The Nigger of the Narcissus" perfectly well, it has historical context. Or I can refer to it while discussing the civil rights movement.
Generally, I doubt such usage would even draw a complaint.
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I had a thought - why don't we have a forum where we can post what tools we use - freeware only, no paid or shareware apps in order to keep the ad trolls away... The good thing about the voting system is that as people here use the tools they can vote up or down whether they like them or not.
Like yesterday, someone was complaining about Roxio, and I suggested ImgBurn - several follow on posters liked it and one mentioned how that was the only reason he went through the ranting posts...
David
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I second that
See if you can crack this: fb29a481781fe9b3fb8de57cda45fbef
The unofficial awesome history of Code Project's Bob!
"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
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I think I was the one who benefited from your post and I like your suggestion. I often bookmark a forum posts\mainly because I’m behind WebSense and want to catch up with the links later at home\ and probably 90% of those bookmarked posts contain a link to some free/inexpensive tool I want to look at. Though such a forum will be very hard to be moderated. Someone will have to constantly check the post and delete the links to commercial tools/applications. Otherwise it will be unfear to the CP customers who pay for the banners.
There is only one Ashley Judd and Salma Hayek is her prophet!
Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.
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Something like Free Tools[^]?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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It would be nice if there could be some kind of ordering on this too, not sure how it would be achieved, so we could see the most popular tools first.
Otherwise the best tools will get buried - as they'll presumably be recommended earlier, and its generally not considered good form to repost.
Another possibility would be to "pin" some so they always appear near the top. A lot of gamer's sites have this feature, so the 5 most commonly asked/looked for tips appear before the user loses patience and asks again.
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FYI, it seems like a few times a week when I visit CP, ALL items in ALL forums are marked as new. Not a serious bug; just thought I'd mention it.
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