Bugs and Suggestions

3-Mar-12 15:19

It really depends on how authors write alternatives. If they write them as something that can stand on its own, then there's less of a problem.

When articles are deleted they are usually deleted because either they are spam, they are too poor to be displayed, or because the author really doesn't want it visible anymore. In all cases it doesn't make sense to still show the content. Kinda defeats the purpose of deleting something.

cheers,
Chris Maunder

The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP

add comment to tip

Luc Pattyn3-Mar-12 3:43

3-Mar-12 3:43

Having all kinds of articles (real and tiny ones) unified seems like a good idea. All isn't well yet though:

I couldn't find a way to add a message to an existing tip (this one[^]) under the new presentation, I was hoping to find a "Add new message" button/widget but didn't see one. I was however capable of voting and typing some text in the tiny box one then gets (why does it have to be such a hobgoblin box anyway?). And then, I can't see the message that I hope I created???

[ADDED] I was rewarded one participant point for an "Add Comment" event, so the message probably exists [/ADDED]

D'Oh! | :doh:

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thatraja3-Mar-12 4:13

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3-Mar-12 4:13

Yep, also existing comments/messages are missing in Alternate Tips/Tricks(Sample one - How to detect browser close when browser [X] is clicked ?[^]).

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#realJSOP3-Mar-12 5:39

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3-Mar-12 5:39

You made a comment on an alternative tip I made (I think it's the one you posted above) that appears to now be posted as it's own tip. Something Chris did is hosing things up a bit. (And I'm not sure a vote of 3 is applicable in that context - Smile | :)

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Luc Pattyn3-Mar-12 5:55

3-Mar-12 5:55

Hi John,

I had to vote some number to get a way to enter my message.
4 or 5 seemed unjustifiable, and 1 or 2 I'd probably not survive, so I went for the middle of the road, which also is rep-neutral.
And you're right about things currently being hosed up in T&T land.

Smile | :)

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Chris Maunder3-Mar-12 7:15

3-Mar-12 7:15

All fixed. A few stragglers were missing forums but they have been added.

UI update (clarification for John's concerns) coming (hopefully) within the hour.

cheers,
Chris Maunder

The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP

This is Odd

Chris Meech2-Mar-12 16:54

2-Mar-12 16:54

My reputation history shows me posting a message March 2, 2012 @ 11:52AM. Though the link points to this message[^]. I posted that back in August 2010. Confused | :confused:

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AspDotNetDev2-Mar-12 17:20

2-Mar-12 17:20

By design.

Chris Meech3-Mar-12 2:30

3-Mar-12 2:30

Sorry, but I don't understand how that is shedding any light on things. Smile | :)

modified 3-Mar-12 10:05am.

Chris Maunder3-Mar-12 7:17

3-Mar-12 7:17

We moved a bunch of comments into forums as part of the UI update to tips and tricks. Since we moved them yesterday, that's when the rep points were awarded.

cheers,
Chris Maunder

The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP

Chris Meech3-Mar-12 7:28

3-Mar-12 7:28

Thanks Chris.

Did the comments then get moved back? And wouldn't the points be removed if the comment was moved back out of a forum. What's confusing is that it isn't a forum message, but rather an article comment.

It's not a big deal. Just my thick skull trying to understand. Smile | :)

Chris Maunder3-Mar-12 16:20

3-Mar-12 16:20

No, the comments haven't been moved back (they still exist).

We actually have two comment systems: The original forum system, which is used to allow comments to be made to articles, and a lighter weight Comment system that is used for Quick Answers (and previously Tips).

Tips used to have comments attached to them. We've ditched this and instead moved to having Forums attached to tips (same as articles) and so we've imported the comments attached to tips into the new forums we've created for each tip.

I hope that, um, clears it up.

cheers,
Chris Maunder

The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP

Chris Meech3-Mar-12 18:12

Observations / Suggestions for Alternate Tips/Articles

3-Mar-12 18:12

Thanks Chris.

It's beginning to sound like something I don't want to understand. Smile | :)

AspDotNetDev2-Mar-12 12:25

2-Mar-12 12:25

I just visited my alternate tip: No More Session Variable Misspellings.

Issue #1. When I do so, I noticed that the "Tip" tab is highlighted, even though it's not the primary tip. Maybe add a dynamic tab "Alternate Tip" that only displays when viewing an alternate tip? I suspect this also applies to articles, though I haven't seen any alternate articles yet.

Issue #2. When I visit the latest articles page, there are checkboxes for everything except for "Alternative Article".

Re: Observations / Suggestions for Alternate Tips/Articles

Chris Maunder5-Mar-12 7:24

Grab Article Titles Faster on Link Paste

5-Mar-12 7:24

Fixed, and will be fixed this afternoon.

cheers,
Chris Maunder

The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP

AspDotNetDev2-Mar-12 12:17

2-Mar-12 12:17

When I paste a link to a Code Project article, the title is filled in for me. Looks like you probably use some AJAX to to ask the server for the title, which takes a second or two. You could probably avoid that AJAX call as follows...

When I paste a link to an article, I typically have the article open in another window. That means you could drop a cookie when a user visits an article to associate the article ID (or even the full URL) with an article title. When a user pastes a link to that article, the cookie can be inspected to get the article title. As a fallback, you could still hit the server with some AJAX.

Chris Maunder2-Mar-12 13:07

2-Mar-12 13:07

If you are editing a message in window 1, then visit window 2 which drops a cookie, do you have access to that new cookie in window 1 immediately? I doubt you would. It's also extremely hit and miss.

cheers,
Chris Maunder

The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP

AspDotNetDev2-Mar-12 14:02

2-Mar-12 14:02

I'm not sure, but I suspect so (I'll try make time to create a quick test this weekend). Though, cookies are sent to the server with each page request. If a user views enough articles, that data could grow and slow down their page load times a bit. One possible way to overcome that would be to only store info on the last 25 articles viewed.

I don't think it would be very hit and miss. How often do you think users paste article URL's without having recently viewed that article? I usually copy the URL's directly from the browser address bar.

Luc Pattyn2-Mar-12 17:53

2-Mar-12 17:53

You can copy a URL from a favorite button, i.e. without opening the page. Your articles are amongst your favorites, aren't they?

Smile | :)

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AspDotNetDev2-Mar-12 18:04

2-Mar-12 18:04

Nope, I use Code Project's bookmark feature. Also, that doesn't seem to work from IE9 (I suspect IE copies the shortcut file rather than the text URL). Unless you are talking about going to the properties for the favorite and copying the link from there, which somebody COULD do. And I'm sure somebody COULD view an article in one browser then paste it into a different browser, or they COULD have a giant list of URL's stored in a text file... but I doubt that happens often.

Luc Pattyn2-Mar-12 18:11

2-Mar-12 18:11

I was referring to the bookmarks bar as it exists in FireFox, Chrome, and probably the others as well. Just right-click and choose "Copy".

And no, I seldom use the "CP bookmark feature", as that only works for CP material; I have a universal bookmark system in place, with an actual database so I can store whatever I choose, then search, list, sort, etc.

Smile | :)

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AspDotNetDev12-Mar-12 16:29

12-Mar-12 16:29

Chris Maunder wrote:
If you are editing a message in window 1, then visit window 2 which drops a cookie, do you have access to that new cookie in window 1 immediately?

Yes. Here's how I demonstrated that... create Page1.aspx:

ASP.NET

<%@ Page Language="C#" %>

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head runat="server">
    <title>Page 1</title>
    <script type="text/javascript" src="http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.7.1/jquery.js"></script>
</head>
<body>
    <form id="form1" runat="server">
    <div>
      <p><a href="#" class="setCookie">Set Cookie</a></p>
      <p><a href="#" class="showCookie">Show Cookie</a></p>
    </div>
    </form>
    <script type="text/javascript">
      <!--
      function setCookie () {
        var expires = new Date((new Date()).getTime() + 1000 * 60 * 60 * 24);
        document.cookie = "recent_pages=123,456;expires=" + expires.toGMTString() + ";path=/";
      }
      function showCookie () {
        alert(document.cookie);
      }
      $(function () {
        $(".setCookie").click(function () {
          setCookie();
          return false;
        });
        $(".showCookie").click(function () {
          showCookie();
          return false;
        });
      });
      //-->
    </script>
</body>
</html>

Then create Page2.aspx:

ASP.NET

<%@ Page Language="C#" %>

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head runat="server">
    <title>Page 2</title>
    <script type="text/javascript" src="http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.7.1/jquery.js"></script>
</head>
<body>
    <form id="form1" runat="server">
    <div>
      <p><a href="#" class="setCookie">Set Cookie</a></p>
      <p><a href="#" class="showCookie">Show Cookie</a></p>
    </div>
    </form>
    <script type="text/javascript">
      <!--
      function setCookie () {
        var expires = new Date((new Date()).getTime() + 1000 * 60 * 60 * 24);
        document.cookie = "recent_pages=789,987;expires=" + expires.toGMTString() + ";path=/";
      }
      function showCookie () {
        alert(document.cookie);
      }
      $(function () {
        $(".setCookie").click(function () {
          setCookie();
          return false;
        });
        $(".showCookie").click(function () {
          showCookie();
          return false;
        });
      });
      //-->
    </script>
</body>
</html>

Run them both in the same web application. Click "Set Cookie" in Page1.aspx, then click "Show Cookie" in Page2.aspx. You will note that Page2.aspx displays the cookie set in Page1.aspx.