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Ya ! I have already tested the speed. But this problem is not specified from a location.
I have the same problem from any location or computer outside mine network.
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Sanjay_007 wrote: Can anyone please explain me the details behind this implementation ?
How do you suggest to handle a scenario where a single person creates 20 accounts from his laptop and then votes on an article using those 20 accounts?
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Tarpit account creation from a single IP? For example:
- You can create one account immediately; for the next account, you have to wait 30 minutes; the next one takes an hour; and so on (up to a reasonable limit).
- If you go five days without creating an account, the limits are reset.
- If an account created from your IP is banned, you're blocked from creating another from the same IP for one week.
I don't know whether this would work, whether it would have any benefits, how easy it would be to implement, or even if the hamsters could handle the extra workload.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote: if the hamsters could handle the extra workload.
To me that's the one of the hurdle.... to keep these extra information and calculation for few days..
Chris might have more reasons or comments.
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But this way, once you have your 20 sock puppet accounts created, you are free to use them to upvote your article.
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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Hopefully that sort of behaviour would be detected and dealt with.
If you haven't already created the accounts, and assuming no upper limit on the delay, it would take 262143.5 hours ≈ 10922.65 days ≈ 30 years to create 20 sock puppet accounts from the same IP address.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Trouble is, I can get a new IP address in 14 seconds - that is how long it takes to disconnect and reconnect my router. At that point my ISP issues me a new IP.
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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Which makes the current "one IP, one vote" limit meaningless to protect against sock-puppets. Anyone who's that desperate to see their reputation points increase (and hasn't discovered the "squillion points" hack) isn't going to be stopped by a 14-second delay between votes.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote: and hasn't discovered the "squillion points" hack
I didn't even know the site had God Mode!
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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Shhh![^] Don't tell anyone. It's a secret.[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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But that's what I see every time...
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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All I see on your profile is "master debator" (ooo-er!) and "CEO of Wales"!
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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That exactly was my point ! There are ways to bypass "one IP, one vote" limit, but why should that affect the legitimate users?
My first rule of debugging: "If you get a different error message, you're making progress." - PIEBALDconsult
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Richard Deeming wrote: If you haven't already created the accounts, and assuming no upper limit on the delay, it would take 262143.5 hours ≈ 10922.65 days ≈ 30 years to create 20 sock puppet accounts from the same IP address But then you are seriously limiting the number of developers within a company that can create accounts on CodeProject...
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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Which is why I suggested a sensible upper limit and a reset after five days. It's hard to protect against sock-puppets without inconveniencing legitimate users.
However, as Griff pointed out above, IP-based restrictions aren't a great barrier to a determined point-whore.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Sandeep Mewara wrote: How do you suggest to handle a scenario where a single person creates 20 accounts from his laptop and then votes on an article using those 20 accounts?
A good old-fashioned slap?
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That would do... if caught.
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As OriginalGriff and Richard Deeming pointed out in this thread, my point was, there are ways to bypass "one IP, one vote" limit, but why should that affect the legitimate users?
My first rule of debugging: "If you get a different error message, you're making progress." - PIEBALDconsult
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Two main reasons
1. The more variation you get in voters the more likely the final score will be indicative of the general view. We observed, fairly regularly, that two people voting from the same company or household often voted the same.
2. Vote rigging is a lot easier if you are able to vote multiple times from the same IP. Obviously there are ways to get around this, but there are ways to get around most things in life. Merely putting this simple restriction in place drastically reduced the incidences of sock puppet voting.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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...can I have the "delete question in QA" privilege back? I promise not to use it for personal gain.
It's just the live stream spammers are back in QA, and that is about all you can see in there at the moment...
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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OriginalGriff wrote: that is about all you can see in there at the moment...
I can't see any. What am I missing?
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Never work with animals, children or spammers...
All gone! (The "new" page was nearly full of spam, to the point you couldn't see other posts, honest!)
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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I was only going to see if I still had delete question privileges. I don't want to go to town on a "good" question.
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You do according to your profile page.
The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)
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