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isn't that used to be 0 or 100?
Bryian Tan
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Users with sufficient reputation no longer go through the spam checker. Yesterday they required 600 points to get past Silver status, so the spammers were signing up and doing enough "things" that they'd gain 600 points and then they could spam with impunity.
I updated this so members now require Gold status in order to avoid the spam checker.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Just thinking loud here, but is it possible to run ALL messages through the spam filter, but have different trigger levels above and below the threshold?
Those astrologer posts really should have triggered every bell in the country.
I can personally live with having an occasional post stuck in the filter.
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In theory yes but it would be total guess work as to setting a ‘more relaxed’ threshold. We’re already trying to be relaxed as it is.
I totally understand what you mean though and it’s a great idea.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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So what about a fuzzy threshold?
Make it inversely proportional(ish) to the rep points above say 1000 or so, while keeping it at 'right out bastard' below that.
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You can't see anything in QA except "black magic" crap at the moment, and they are posting faster than we can remove the dross. The spam filter seems to be ignoring them as well, and it's had plenty of examples!
How about a "Protector" only report option: two protectors hit it and the account is closed or suspended and all posts, comments, messages, questions, and answers go to a "quarantine" for staff inspection? It would "clean up" the site quickly (and manually reporting 90+ QA questions for one user takes time) and that should discourage the idiots from posting at all.
Yesterday was a tester: "Can we get past the detector?".
Today would seem to be "payload day" - and the site looks like a New Age Drivel site because you can't see anything but astrology in QA ...
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OriginalGriff wrote: How about a "Protector" only report option: two protectors hit it and the account is closed or suspended
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There are approx. 1200 spam messages at the moment in "Design and Architecture".
So yes, we need better tools if where gonna hold the line while the hamsters sleeps.
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Can also add a delay before you can post in succession.
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One question per day, and/or recaptcha for users less than a year old, or for users under a certain rep points threshold, say 10k points. It would be ludicrous to ask high-rep or long-time members to complete a recaptcha.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: It would be ludicrous to ask high-rep or long-time members to complete a recaptcha.
Indeed. Most of us would fail ... 
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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That's funny - I don't care who y'are...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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we can make the captcha ask simple question, like what is 1 + 5, 2 x 3  have a calculator ready
Bryian Tan
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Most QA questioners would have to ask a question in QA to solve the problem! 
Hang on ... you may be on to something here ... Hmmm ...
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Never throw anything away, Griff
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There is a rep point threshold, but it's at 500 points.
See my post above.
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QA does stand for "Quick Astrologers", doesn't it? 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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uranus is related to astrology![Java | [Coffee]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/coffee.gif)
I do not fear of failure. I fear of giving up out of frustration.
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So who is responsible for cleaning up these posts?
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The hamsters will get 'em - they have direct access to the DB and can wield The Obsidian Axe of Sql against them. 
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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You are. We will give you a chisel.
This space for rent
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The issue here is that we set the level for people to avoid the spam tester too low - 600 points in some cases. This has been updated (you need Gold status now) so let's see how this goes instead of pushing the issue back onto manual user intervention as the primary guard.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I'd agree that it shouldn't be the first line of defence - the spam detector does a good job nearly all the time. But for days like yesterday when you can't feed the damn things to the detector fast enough, we do need a backup option to discourage them from further posting.
If we turn their efforts into a waste of time quickly enough, they will bugger off elsewhere (as we've seen today). And (no offence intended) they tend to be in a time zone when you are all having a well-deserved sleep. You've got a network of protectors in every time zone, so I'm just suggesting you give them a backup tool in the box to prevent floods.
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I would add something to your feature...
It could be a "only protectors or higher" check box near the red flag to report an account... something like:
This user is a massive spammer, if closed, delete {all messages // messages younger than X days} related to this account
So we check the box first and then hit the report button. Combining the power of several small hits to make a big spam hammer as CP Staff's
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Whew, I wouldn't have noticed, I received the gold just yesterday.
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