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Chris Maunder wrote: I still don't see that you've explained clearly how downvotes kill this
Ok, instead of people taking the time to formulate and put down in words why they disagree with a post, they just downvote it. That is not banter. It is sniping.
Chris Maunder wrote: You mentioned points trolling
People posting purely to get points. It is quite obvious that some posts are phrased expressly to gather points, in fact I have been accused of doing this myself by other people, so clearly other people also see this happening.
Chris Maunder wrote: So what's stopping you from having lively debates about stuff relevant to the
working life of a typical developer?
Not finding it particularly lively is the principle obstacle.  It is a job, it pays money, beyond that I have little interest in IT.
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I think points trolling and voting are two very different issues. People don't post carefully crafted posts just for points. They post them for laughs, to be seen as an expert, to start a fight, to get a reaction. And yes, to get upvotes. Removing voting will not stop this.
Erudite__Eric wrote: instead of people taking the time to formulate and put down in words why they disagree with a post, they just downvote it.
I removed voting in the Soapbox. Did this improve banter? Or did people simply do nothing because they couldn't vote?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: ...And yes, to get upvotes. Removing voting will not stop this.
Well, it will stop the latter, clearly.
Chris Maunder wrote: I removed voting in the Soapbox. Did this improve banter? Or did people simply
do nothing because they couldn't vote?
I don't recall removing voting in SB, perhaps it was during a period when I wasnt using CP. What killed the SB though was when it got split into three: BS2, SB1 and BR.
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As soon as a question in Q&A is closed, all the comments to this question and also to all solutions disappear. Shouldn't the comments still be there or is this intentional?
Also, the todo-list on top of Site Bugs/Suggestions seems to be gone.
"I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)
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Would it be possible to have some kind of line/change in highlighting/whatever joining the subject to the poster's name when you hover over the link (similar to the way the line joins the next post up the tree)? When using a widescreen monitor (who doesn't these days) I find the current scheme difficult to determine who the poster is when viewing the list of forum posts, particularly when there are a heap of nested levels.
Thanks!
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I did have a hover-over at one point. I think I was shouted down on that.
Have you tried the "Fixed" layour option at the bottom of the page? It's not everyone's cup of tea, but it's there in case you missed it.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Yeah, I don't like the fixed view... it's not a massive issue, so if it's been tried and smacked previously, no problems!! 
Edit: How about just making an alternate line colour rather than the same colour with a white spacer?
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In my relative's comp where I can't use fixed view, I always ctrl+click on the space right besides the post, it will select the whole post (FF)
Excuse me for my improper grammar and typos.
It's because English is my primary language, not my first language.
My first languages are C# and Java.
VB, ASP, JS, PHP and SQL are my second language.
Indonesian came as my third language.
My fourth language? I'm still creating it, I'll let you know when it's done!
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So I noticed that NET 4.5 Framework has it's own forum.
The "Silverlight & WPF" forum has been renamed to append "WinRT". However, WinRT has nothing to do with the other two. WinRT really deserves its own forum. Or it should be combined with the "Windows API" forum rather than where it is.
Seems to me that the ".NET 4.5 framework" forum is superfluous since there's already a ".Net Framework" forum.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun
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I wanted to combine it with a forum that would be a stepping stone for developers. However, am happy to move it out to its own.
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ahmed zahmed wrote: Seems to me that the ".NET 4.5 framework" forum is superfluous since there's
already a ".Net Framework" forum
Sure, but discussions on the changes will get buried in the general .NET forum.
How about a .NET 4.5 / WinRT forum? Or more simply: "Windows 8"?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: Or more simply: "Windows 8"?
Where's the Windows 3.11 forum? 
Somebody in an online forum wrote: INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
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uh...I'll get back to you on that...
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: uh...I'll get back to you on that...
AspDotNetDev read: I'll start working on that.
 *bookmarks post to hold Chris to his word*
Somebody in an online forum wrote: INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
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Chris Maunder wrote: Or more simply: "Windows 8"?
While calling it Windows 8 Dev Issues would be good, I really think you should call it WinRT/Metro. Microsoft is hype-marketing the bejesus out of those two words/phrases, so it'd make sense to use a title that people would recognize.
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Combining it with the current Windows API made the most sense.
Windows API and WinRT/Metro[^]
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Fixed, but the top nav bar will take a while to update.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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The links for the ads seem to be fine, but all the others are kinda of odd. The link for Josh's article begins with "mailto:http://" so that seems kinda odd. Also all the article links are prefixed with an "outbind::" which is something I have no idea about. Though it does bring up a browser locater dialog.
Chris Meech
I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar]
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]
posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]
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I know. I have a head shaped dent in my desk.
I thought our systems had this fixed last time it happened, but regardless of testing it slipped through again. It's only affected a fraction of the mailouts.
My apologies.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Will the testing department be made to walk the plank.
Chris Meech
I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar]
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]
posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]
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Arrrr!
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Meech wrote: Will the testing department be made to walk the plank.
I hope you're ready for a swim. 
Somebody in an online forum wrote: INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
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Webpage error details
User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/5.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E; Zune 4.7; InfoPath.3; MS-RTC LM 8; BOIE9;ENUS; ULS PORT=18080)
Timestamp: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:18:58 UTC
Message: The value of the property '$' is null or undefined, not a Function object
Line: 299
Char: 2
Code: 0
URI: http://www.codeproject.com/
utf8-cpp
modified on Monday, September 19, 2011 4:06 PM
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Using IE 10 on Windows 8, it's impossible to login to CP. Keeps saying cookies are not enabled. I verified that cookies were enabled, and even specifically added codeproject.com to the allowed domains. I even tried with prompt set to true and on browsing to the codeproject home-page I was prompted 4-5 times for cookies (all of which I approved), and then again 4-5 times during login (again, all approved). Gave me the same error.
I am now posting this from Firefox.
I know Windows 8 is pre-beta but considering that this site's target audience would be geeks/nerds, I am surprised IE 10 is not supported.
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